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Citizenship and deportation
- Thread starter LCSilence
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AmericanWannabe
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One no matter how smart and wise can do stupid things sometimes.
Stupid things include crimes and crimes mean deportation.
For example, a professor at Lousianna tech is jealous
of his fellow professor getting fund so he hit him
with a hammer. He was sentenced to 8 years
and USCIS said it will deport him.
Many husbands beat wives. This could lead to deportation too.
Or a parent may lose temper and hit their kids. This
could cause deportation.
One can lose temper with some business dipustes
and shout to the other person on the phone
"I'll kill you". He may not literally mean it
but the other side may call the police
who will arrets you for assualt
One can cause a fatal traffic accidents
and is charged with manslaughter and will
be deported.
One can smoke a marijuna at an American
firned's part and get busted by the police.
One can be wrongly accused too. Example: one
can do shopping and accidently forget to pay
something in the shopping cart and will be charged
with theft.
Stupid things include crimes and crimes mean deportation.
For example, a professor at Lousianna tech is jealous
of his fellow professor getting fund so he hit him
with a hammer. He was sentenced to 8 years
and USCIS said it will deport him.
Many husbands beat wives. This could lead to deportation too.
Or a parent may lose temper and hit their kids. This
could cause deportation.
One can lose temper with some business dipustes
and shout to the other person on the phone
"I'll kill you". He may not literally mean it
but the other side may call the police
who will arrets you for assualt
One can cause a fatal traffic accidents
and is charged with manslaughter and will
be deported.
One can smoke a marijuna at an American
firned's part and get busted by the police.
One can be wrongly accused too. Example: one
can do shopping and accidently forget to pay
something in the shopping cart and will be charged
with theft.
AmericanWannabe said:One can be wrongly accused too. Example: one
can do shopping and accidently forget to pay
something in the shopping cart and will be charged
with theft.
These are petty offenses. Nobody gets deported for these. Pls dont scare people.
Moreover in many of the crimes you listed, you dont get deported straightaway. That is why there are lawyers out there. A PR turned citizen has every right as a born-citizen does. Make no mistake about it.
AmericanWannabe
Registered Users (C)
pv1976 said:These are petty offenses. Nobody gets deported for these. Pls dont scare people.
Moreover in many of the crimes you listed, you dont get deported straightaway. That is why there are lawyers out there. A PR turned citizen has every right as a born-citizen does. Make no mistake about it.
I am talking about non-citizen PRs
One benefits of citizenship is that a naturalized citizen cannot be deported. But I do hear some have been PRs all their life in this country. As a professional, if you have spent some time in jail, your career/life will be over any away. So what the difference it makes if you get deported?
Please help me clear my thoughts, thanks.
Please help me clear my thoughts, thanks.
AmericanWannabe
Registered Users (C)
LCSilence said:One benefits of citizenship is that a naturalized citizen cannot be deported. But I do hear some have been PRs all their life in this country. As a professional, if you have spent some time in jail, your career/life will be over any away. So what the difference it makes if you get deported?
Please help me clear my thoughts, thanks.
So if one lost one 10000 bucks, then he should not care about
losing another 10 bucks?
arm?
manik_baasha
Registered Users (C)
LCSilence said:One of the benefits of citizenship is that: US citizen cannot be deported. But how easy is it for USCIS to deport a GC holder? Do you think it is a valid concern for GC holder that they might be deported in the future?
Thanks
Yes, the government certainly can. Check out the following link for classes of deportable aliens.
http://uscis.gov/lpBin/lpext.dll/inserts/slb/slb-1/slb-21/slb-4863?f=templates&fn=document-frame.htm
If you read through, you will notice that if you commit any of the crimes mentioned, you'd be in a lot of trouble even if you were not deported.
AmericanWannabe
Registered Users (C)
In fact, it is very easy to get deported.
How many of you have failed to file AR-11 before?
3) Failure to register and falsification of documents.-
(A) Change of address.-An alien who has failed to comply with the provisions of section 265 is deportable, unless the alien establishes to the satisfaction of the Attorney General that such failure was reasonably excusable or was not willful.
How many of you have failed to file AR-11 before?
3) Failure to register and falsification of documents.-
(A) Change of address.-An alien who has failed to comply with the provisions of section 265 is deportable, unless the alien establishes to the satisfaction of the Attorney General that such failure was reasonably excusable or was not willful.
Isnt the subject topic "citizenship & deportation"..??? then, why are we discussing "premanent residence & deportation". A PR is always subjectable to deportation. I guess the person who started this thread wanted to discuss deportation factors for a PR turned citizen.
AmericanWannabe
Registered Users (C)
pv1976 said:Isnt the subject topic "citizenship & deportation"..??? then, why are we discussing "premanent residence & deportation". A PR is always subjectable to deportation. I guess the person who started this thread wanted to discuss deportation factors for a PR turned citizen.
PR turned citizen can not de deported unless fraud is found in the
application. I don't know the USCIS can argue that since a PR-turned
citizen commite a crime so that he commited a fraud when he
said he has good moral character at teh time of applying for citizenship.
If the USCIS insist thsi way, the guy can say he indeed had a good
character at that time but he became corrupt only after becoming
a citizen.
This is not true. We have had this discussion already. A PR turned citizen enjoys almost the same rights as born citizens.
Failing to file AR-11 does not qualify for 'fraud'. if so there are millions of PR turned citizens need to be deported.
Failing to file AR-11 does not qualify for 'fraud'. if so there are millions of PR turned citizens need to be deported.
AmericanWannabe said:In fact, it is very easy to get deported.
How many of you have failed to file AR-11 before?
3) Failure to register and falsification of documents.-
(A) Change of address.-An alien who has failed to comply with the provisions of section 265 is deportable, unless the alien establishes to the satisfaction of the Attorney General that such failure was reasonably excusable or was not willful.
rpranesh said:USCIS in no way can revoke a PR turned citizen, even if granted accidental. Only a court can do it.
USCIS can revoke citizenship of a naturalized citizen. However, if appeal is made it goes to immigration court where the decision can be reversed (probably that's what happened in the case you described).
USCIS cannot revoke citizenship of a born citizen.