Citizenship and children

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nossik

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My wife and I have become US citizens after being LPRs for 5 years. Our underage child, who was born abroad and came to the US with us, has also become US citizen by "derivation", correct? Since we surrendered our green cards, should we surrender his as well? What is the status of his GC at this point? Could he still use it for international travel before he gets a US passport?
Also, could he use it as a proof of ID, say, when applying for a drivers license? Or does he need a US passport for that?

When we apply for his US passport, should we provide his original birth certificate? Should we have it translated and notarized? Should we also attach our marriage certificate translated and notarized? Can I translate these documents myself and have them notarized at a local bank?


Thank you.
 
nossik said:
My wife and I have become US citizens after being LPRs for 5 years. Our underage child, who was born abroad and came to the US with us, has also become US citizen by "derivation", correct? Since we surrendered our green cards, should we surrender his as well? What is the status of his GC at this point? Could he still use it for international travel before he gets a US passport?
Also, could he use it as a proof of ID, say, when applying for a drivers license? Or does he need a US passport for that?

When we apply for his US passport, should we provide his original birth certificate? Should we have it translated and notarized? Should we also attach our marriage certificate translated and notarized? Can I translate these documents myself and have them notarized at a local bank?


Thank you.
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Coirrect way is:

(1) Use your own certificate of naturalization and your child's GC to apply for US passport
(2) Use your own certificate of naturalization and your child's GC to apply for certificate of citizenship (N-600 process)
(3) Do not use GC anymore if it is not surrendered during N600. Keep it only as sourvinir.
 
For (2) you only need photocopies for the N-600 application. You will only need to send the GC for the passport application. GC should no longer be used as your child is now a citizen, not a permanent resident. In theory it could still serve as an ID for the duration of the GC validity. Couldn't be used for travel, probably not even for driver license as he would have to prove status in the US and permanent resident is not the status anymore. Just apply for passport book and passport card. The passport card is like a green card for citizens. Can be used as ID for multiple things and for land travel to Canada/Mexico, and I think some other sea travel.
 
nossik said:
My wife and I have become US citizens after being LPRs for 5 years. Our underage child, who was born abroad and came to the US with us, has also become US citizen by "derivation", correct? Since we surrendered our green cards, should we surrender his as well?
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You will need his green card to apply for N-600 or a US passport for him.
 
If both father and mother are naturalized, does it make any difference for their children which parent's certificate to use
to file N400 or passport application?

If one day, one parent is found to have lied on N400 and is de-naturalized but the other parent is OK, will
chidlren also be de-naturalized if they use the first parent's certificate to get their own passport?
 
That's why it might be better to apply for certificate of citizenship (N-600) providing photocopies of both naturalization certificates. That way if one naturalization goes sour the certificate is still valid ;) I think in our case the post office employee used the mother's naturalization certificate for the passport application.
 
Huracan said:
That's why it might be better to apply for certificate of citizenship (N-600) providing photocopies of both naturalization certificates. That way if one naturalization goes sour the certificate is still valid ;) I think in our case the post office employee used the mother's naturalization certificate for the passport application.
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So if father take oath a few days earlier than mother, the kid's date of becoming citizens will still be the date of the mother's oath date?
 
No, it would be the father's day. You raise an interesting point, in that case the passport application should go with whomever naturalized first certificate. Unless the Department of State can figure out the citizen since by checking both father and mother's citizenship status with USCIS. Anyway, now that I think better about it, it is a moot point. The passport doesn't have a citizen since date, the N-600 has, and in that case the N-600 asks for citizenship information from both parents so it will be able to determine when the citizenship was derived, which in your example is when the father naturalized.
 
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