Can we suggest higher fee to speed up LC ?

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paulnews

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I may be crazy, but it is definitely forced by the unreasonable immigration process in the U.S.

As they have been saying backlog due to too much application and too little resources, can we actually suggest a unreasonable / inhuman set of rules to expedite the GC process ?

E.g. if each of the applicants pay $20,000 to have a faster GC, plus every quarter (for 2 years or so) report themselves to immigration officer to make sure they are not doing anything illlegal, else consficate the GC.

This may sound crazy and no human rights, but at least I think it would be better then suffering under bad boss, or cannot settle down, or free donation of Social Security tax if H1 expire etc. Mental stress/torture during the GC processing can be one of worst thing that drive the intelligent H1B engineers crazy.

Perhaps with additional money, they can put together a good and efficient online PERM program without delay. And attorney's make faster money, and happier applicants can plan their life.

What say you ?
 
good idea.

I'm all for it dude. Actually i have another plan and I'm damn serious. Lets talk to each of the democratic presidential candidates.. if they agree to expedite the GC process we can collect money from many H1B holders and fund the campaign to some extent. Anybody game for this idea. I have a feeling this can work.
 
Re: good idea.

Campaigns can't be funded from foreign sources, so collecting the money for campaign is not an option.

But I like the idea of premium processing, though the problem is almost everyone will apply, therefore the queue will still be just as long - unless the DOL/INS agrees to use the extra monies to hire new people to do the job. But then again, doing so is a conflict of interest for these case officers as their salaries is coming directly from the people they are adjudicating (kind of a bribe, if you will).

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Originally posted by aawara
I'm all for it dude. Actually i have another plan and I'm damn serious. Lets talk to each of the democratic presidential candidates.. if they agree to expedite the GC process we can collect money from many H1B holders and fund the campaign to some extent. Anybody game for this idea. I have a feeling this can work.
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For a few million dollars, you can buy an citizenship directly from INS, or whatever it's called nowaday.
 
U don't nee to be a milionaire. There's a thing called: "Foreign Investor in US Economy" - essentially, you gotta show that somehow u're creating jobs in US (either by having a succesful business or having "certain" amount invested in US economy). This creates bases for giving u GC.

The "certain" sum is not really defined. I think a knowledgable laywer could pull it off, if u'd have $150000+ invested in economy (Please, note, u don't need to pay this amount, u merely have to have it invested: in stocks, on a CDC account, etc).
 
It is not that the money collected already is not sufficient...

there are some interesting articles on this; on Attorney Murthy's website (if I remember correctly). The whole issue is collecting money from employment based applications and diverting to enforcement, and other priority items llike religious workers, asylum seekers and so on. As is done in many cases, the money is pooled and then budgeted again and spent on current priority items. How much time do you guys think they actually spend on each application? For example, the published stats for LC process indicate that the analyst spends not more than 30 minutes per application, and I believe I140/I485 are probably more procedural compared to LC process and should take more or less same time.

And, if private insurance Co.s can spend almost 30% of revenues on administrative expenses, I am sure a Govt. orgn. like USICS has expenses some thing like 80% and rest is spent on priority issues.

But, I agree if they can come up with a plan that gurantees an outcome in couple months, I am sure many of us will pay that and get on with our lives. After all becoming an immigrant American is not the sole purpose of this life! And, I am not sure if it is "a bribe" since the outcome is not necessarily always in applicant's favor. All we are proposing is paying premiun for a better service :-)
 
A premium service would be very welcome.
Yes everyone will queue up for it but DOL can hire more people to adjudicate.
It is not a bribe because we are paying for faster adjudication not a favorable result (Not all premium filed H-1B petitions are approved).

Taking 2 or 3 years for Labor alone is a huge pain and that is an understatement.
 
Thanks for all the reply. At least morale support, so I know I am not alone. In fact, this mental torture is a crime of human rights to me.

We are at least equally, if not more, capable ppl that helps with the U.S. economy. I don't know why there are congress ppl even fight for illegal immigrants etc, instead of helping this group of H1B ppl who struggle their life with lots more contribution here. We are not born as criminal. Look at this: we pay social security tax etc, and if we got disability problem and so on later, or bad happens, we can lose the H1B after sometime, then we need to leave and cannot even get any benefits back. If we are unlucky to end up on few companies with bad bosses, we finish up our 6 years H1B, then we lose those permanently. And, many of us does not buy a house, not easy start a company etc, all contribute to higher taxes. Of course, there is better way for some well to do investor, but how many of us are mentally prepared to do that. And needless to say, many of us are struggling, somewhat, in our company if you are under bad bosses, and losing job opportunity just because of the status, instead of qualification.

Is there any attorney to petition with the premium LC processing petition ? You get faster money and happier clients.

Also, can we start a campaign of writing weekly stories to local newspaper to voice some public/congress awareness of H1B hardship ? Else, the public actually think that we seige their jobs and enjoying life.
 
One of the reasons why the rights of Illegal aliens is taken up with vigor by the politicians is because a lot of them happen to belong to a particular ethnicity. And there are a lot of people belonging to that ethnicity already living as citizens with voting rights.

So taking up the issue of Illegal aliens has an oppurtunity to provide more votes.

On the other hand, we, the legal aliens, do not command any voting group, we are already paying taxes.
Also when a politician talks against us, he has the potential to garner votes because he can say we are grabbing the natives' jobs.
 
Let's narrow down the idea:
- Everyone interested in apply, pay some $20k. If qualified for GC, get faster results 1-3months.
- Those who are not approved, get a refund $15k or so.

The idea is let everyone get the answer fast, whether they are approved or not, so that each of us can plan our life better. At least for those who get approved, they can plan their life seriously here. And for those who failed, they can also plan to leave before their H1 expired.

It is a real torture having someone suffered for 2-3 years then tell them they have to change from RIR to normal processing, or get rejected.

Another method is make the rule clearer and more guranteed. E.g. anyone continuously legally employed with professional jobs for past 5 years or so, automatically be eligible for GC. Like Canada and some countries that use a score system and tells you clearly that 3 years in 5 years if you stay as a resident, then you can apply, etc. Things like that.
 
Also make that $20K tax deductable!

No sense in paying the Govt twice for something we work very hard for!
-My 2 cents
 
$20k is too much. I'd think, premium processing should be $1000 or so. The money should go to finally implementing this darn PERM project. There's no conflict of interests in this.
 
Tax deductible is good idea.

Yes, 20k is a lot. But 1k simply won't work. Not that I don't value hard earned money. But just that I would rather pay that then continue to suffer with uncertainty. If you calculate the chances you lost, the suffer you have at work, the indirect pressure from boss assuming you won't leave, the house you did not buy few years back, the biz idea you have but can't do it parttime without hassle, your mental pressure, etc etc in 2-3 years. It cost much much more than this !!!!!!

Be it legal bribe or whatever, it simply make everybody more efficient.
 
Sorry, I found that this additional payment proposal becomes rather unfair for people who has been waited for LC for long time. May be that is why no many supporters ...

I repropose a fair payment scheme based on prorated rate of how long people has waited, e.g.
- new applicants pays $20k
- those who waited 1 year pay $10k
- those waited 2 years, get immediate processing without additional payment.

Is this acceptable ? I hope more people will be happy. Anybody went through that hardship should understand why I make this proposal.
 
plan execution

i support the initiative for premium processing. its a good plan. its just a pipedream so far though. the biggest and the most obvious question is : how do we get this to be enforced ?
can we start a petition and everyone contact their local congressmen/representatives ? any takers ?
 
I suggest we file a class action lawsuit

I think even with the premium processing the basic things will not change. We could rather get together and collect some money and file a class action lawsuit against DOL/BCIS/INS policies.
Some of the irregularities are very unfair, for example,
1) the current situation in Calif DOL, cases being auto remanded and now DOL going back and reviewing those cases? Someone should be responsible for this mess, what sense did it remand the cases after they had already been approved once.
2) We cannot show our experience gained in current position if that experience is for the position your GC for, so, I filed my case in May 2001 and now I have 4 years of experience with my current company, when DOL reviews my case today, they would compare my experience 4 years back (nothing) to some citizen who might have gained some experience in those 4 years.
3) DOL should not ask for re-ads, what sense does it make, we already did that once, because of their mess they can take forever to review a case and ask for a company to give ads again.
There are lot of other things because, like delays because of 245i, which needs to be raised and reviewed.
The only way to change things in this country is thru lawsuits, allow a judge to review the complaints and come up with a judgement.
If we are ready to spend $20000 for a quicker reply from DOL, why don't we collect $100 from everyone, and use that money to put our case before a judge.
Just my 2 cents, let me know what is your opinion.
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Originally posted by paulnews
Tax deductible is good idea.

Yes, 20k is a lot. But 1k simply won't work. Not that I don't value hard earned money. But just that I would rather pay that then continue to suffer with uncertainty. If you calculate the chances you lost, the suffer you have at work, the indirect pressure from boss assuming you won't leave, the house you did not buy few years back, the biz idea you have but can't do it parttime without hassle, your mental pressure, etc etc in 2-3 years. It cost much much more than this !!!!!!

Be it legal bribe or whatever, it simply make everybody more efficient.
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I agree totally with what you have said.
You are taken for granted at work because your boss knows you cannot leave.
But 20K might be way too high. If I cud afford that much I would take it and open a business in India.
SOmething around $5000 should be good, provided they give results within 2 or 3 months.
 
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