Can i get passport without citz. certificate?

cesarin

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I became a citizen through my mother while i was still a minor. I recently lost all of my id including my citizenship certificate while moving and needed to renew my license and get a passport. Can I get the passport with my mother's help since I became a citizen through her?
 
I would think so since the application states:

"If You Claim Citizenship Through Naturalization Of Parent(s): Submit the Certificate(s) of Naturalization of your parent(s), your foreign birth certificate,
and proof of your admission to the United States for permanent residence."
 
I would think so since the application states:

"If You Claim Citizenship Through Naturalization Of Parent(s): Submit the Certificate(s) of Naturalization of your parent(s), your foreign birth certificate,
and proof of your admission to the United States for permanent residence."

Thanks Hochi!

Ill try my best!
 
That proof of your admission to the United States for permanent residency means you need to show the Green Card or some other similar proof (for example foreign passport with permanent resident visa stamp). I understand that it is tough to rebuild your identity when you lose the originating documents (like passport, naturalization certificate). In particular USCIS should be much more efficient and fast in providing a replacement certificate. However, it is not an easy problem for them to solve, as I am sure many people try to find vulnerabilities in the system to obtain or provide others with ill gotten proofs of citizenship. Whole thing stresses the importance of safeguarding important documents and spreading out proof of citizenship (passport book/card/certificate) at several locations.
 
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That proof of your admission to the United States for permanent residency means you need to show the Green Card or some other similar proof (for example foreign passport with permanent resident visa stamp). I understand that it is tough to rebuild your identity when you lose the originating documents (like passport, naturalization certificate). In particular USCIS should be much more efficient and fast in providing a replacement certificate. However, it is not an easy problem for them to solve, as I am sure many people try to find vulnerabilities in the system to obtain or provide others with ill gotten proofs of citizenship. Whole thing stresses the importance of safeguarding important documents and spreading out proof of citizenship (passport book/card/certificate) at several locations.


Thanks Huracan!!

I am actually excited about the information I read on the DS-11, it seems that I will be able to get the passport instead of continuing to wait for the n565 to be processed. But my mother misplaced her naturalization certificate...can she use her passport instead? Or can we order, through the passport office, a copy of her DS-11 and passport record which shows her certificate number and all the other good stuff and use that for my request?
 
Please let us know how it went. This type of question comes from time to time, and the only way to tell other people what to expect is to see what other people's experiences have been.
 
So what happens in this scenario? Say, you derive citizenship through a parent after you are admitted as a permanent resident. You don't bother to apply for N600/US passport. And suddenly one day you loose your GC. How do you go about getting certificate of citizenship or a US passport?
 
So what happens in this scenario? Say, you derive citizenship through a parent after you are admitted as a permanent resident. You don't bother to apply for N600/US passport. And suddenly one day you loose your GC. How do you go about getting certificate of citizenship or a US passport?

Hello everyone, sorry that I have not been around to post anything yet. I went to my passport appointment at my local post office this past friday and they accepted my DS-11 with just a copy of my receipt from uscis that said I sent in the form n565, they also allowed me to get expedited service. I have been checking the department of state website for updates but it is too soon. Ill check back when I hear something...I hope the department can verify citizenship and not reject my application!! I have my fingers crossed.
 
Good luck. Hopefully they will be able to do something between department of state and USCIS.
 
Good luck. Hopefully they will be able to do something between department of state and USCIS.

Thanks Huracan,

Called uscis for help on expediting my n565, they forwarded my application to a supervisor for review. Hopefully I will hear something soon!! Have you heard of anyone that has requested an expedite before? If so, let me know.
 
Yes, I've heard about someone who asked expedited service, but the outcome hasn't been good. Last time I heard about this poster the case was still stuck after having received a request for evidence. Hopefully you won't have the same experience. I believe in many cases the expedited request really works.
 
Yes, I've heard about someone who asked expedited service, but the outcome hasn't been good. Last time I heard about this poster the case was still stuck after having received a request for evidence. Hopefully you won't have the same experience. I believe in many cases the expedited request really works.

Man, that freeks me out!!! Anyway, I will wait patiently for a response. uscis said I should hear something within 30 days or less. Oh, about the passport...the state dept. asked me for more evidence. The need a letter verifying citizenship from uscis. I told them to hold my app. for a few weeks until I hear from them. I am really stuck with this situation without being able to renew my id and now being told that I will be laid off in about 45 days!!
 
Yes, I've heard about someone who asked expedited service, but the outcome hasn't been good. Last time I heard about this poster the case was still stuck after having received a request for evidence. Hopefully you won't have the same experience. I believe in many cases the expedited request really works.

My journey complete!!!!

I am happy to say that yesterday, May 7, I recieved my letter of approval of an expedited n565 and at the same time, the certificate in a separate envelope!! I could not believe it. I looks like uscis take expedited cases seriously after all. The following is the timeline for my n565:

Sent n565 March 30
Received at uscis on April 2
Requested expedited service on May 1
Received certificate May 7

WOW what a miracle!!!!!!!!!!

By the way, I requested the expedited service over the phone at uscis with a customer service rep. I explained that I was going to lose my job in the next few weeks and my driver's license was expired...without my id, I could not get another job... I expressed a lot of urgency and they took my information. Well, the rest is history!!!

Thank you for all of your postings, they kept me sane!!
 
Hi cesarin,

I am very glad to hear your good news. I was keeping my fingers crossed that your case was going to be one of the many which benefit from expedited treatment. I know that expedited works in many cases. I just know of this poster who has had a bad experience overall.

Yes, not being able to get a job because of the lack of the certificate are reasons for expediting.

I have to say that I am nicely surprised that it took them less than a week to send you the certificate. I am sure you are not going to complain about this level of service :)
 
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