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By David Broder | Comments(1)
As the Senate comes back to work this week, it is scheduled to take up the issue of immigration. And that is what brought Bill Gates to Washington for a rare visit.

The Microsoft billionaire does not love this capital, but he decided to add his personal voice to his Washington office’s lobbying effort to expand the number of foreign-born computer scientists allowed to work in this country under a special program known as H1B visas.


In an interview sandwiched between his meetings on Capitol Hill, Gates told me that the “high-skills immigration issue is by far the No. 1 thing” on the Washington agenda for Microsoft and for the electronics industry generally. “This is gigantic for us.”

Since autumn 2003,

Congress has limited the number of people admitted annually on H1B visas to 65,000. To qualify for such a visa, a person must have at least a bachelor’s degree and specialized knowledge and a job offer from an American employer. The visa is generally good for six years, with the possibility of applying for extensions.

So great is the demand for such skills in the burgeoning high-tech world that in August 2005, the last of the visas available for fiscal 2006 were issued. That means a 14-month shutdown of the program, until October of this year.

“It’s kind of ironic,” Gates told me, “to have somebody graduate from Stanford Computer Science Department and there’s not enough H1B visas, so they have to go back to India. ... And I have people who have been hired, who are just sitting on the border waiting.”

The draft bill that Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Arlen Specter has been trying to prepare for floor consideration would expand the annual H1B limit from 65,000 to 115,000. By excluding dependents (who now are counted against the cap) from the total, it might mean the entry of as many as 300,000 people a year —one-tenth of 1 percent of the U.S. population.

President Bush and his administration support the expansion of H1B visas. And Gates, in turn, is enthusiastic about the White House and bipartisan congressional efforts to boost the teaching of math and

science in American high schools with the long-term goal of expanding the supply of qualified Americans for these jobs.

He is backing that effort both with gifts of technology from the company and grants of $300 million a year from his foundation for innovation in high schools.

Opposition to the H1B

program grew during the dot-com bust, when groups representing domestic

electrical engineers and computer technicians argued that foreigners were taking away their jobs. The Bureau of Labor Statistics reports unemployment among computer and mathematical operators is less than three percent.

Still, there is reluctance — especially in the House of Representatives — to lift the ceiling on H1B visas in an election year.

The House has responded to public pressure to close the borders to illegal immigration and seems incapable of distinguishing that

problem from the value of encouraging high-skill workers to bring their talents to the United States.

That’s why Bill Gates comes to Washington.

Contact David Broder at
 
Unfortunately nothing for EB based green card. He is concern for H1B but not to retain this talent permanently !!

I think IV should take lead to persue him for EB category immigration problem.

lawmaker will believe more to industrialists.





checkmate said:
Microsoft employees stuck on border
By David Broder | Comments(1)
As the Senate comes back to work this week, it is scheduled to take up the issue of immigration. And that is what brought Bill Gates to Washington for a rare visit.

The Microsoft billionaire does not love this capital, but he decided to add his personal voice to his Washington office’s lobbying effort to expand the number of foreign-born computer scientists allowed to work in this country under a special program known as H1B visas.


In an interview sandwiched between his meetings on Capitol Hill, Gates told me that the “high-skills immigration issue is by far the No. 1 thing” on the Washington agenda for Microsoft and for the electronics industry generally. “This is gigantic for us.”

Since autumn 2003,

Congress has limited the number of people admitted annually on H1B visas to 65,000. To qualify for such a visa, a person must have at least a bachelor’s degree and specialized knowledge and a job offer from an American employer. The visa is generally good for six years, with the possibility of applying for extensions.

So great is the demand for such skills in the burgeoning high-tech world that in August 2005, the last of the visas available for fiscal 2006 were issued. That means a 14-month shutdown of the program, until October of this year.

“It’s kind of ironic,” Gates told me, “to have somebody graduate from Stanford Computer Science Department and there’s not enough H1B visas, so they have to go back to India. ... And I have people who have been hired, who are just sitting on the border waiting.”

The draft bill that Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Arlen Specter has been trying to prepare for floor consideration would expand the annual H1B limit from 65,000 to 115,000. By excluding dependents (who now are counted against the cap) from the total, it might mean the entry of as many as 300,000 people a year —one-tenth of 1 percent of the U.S. population.

President Bush and his administration support the expansion of H1B visas. And Gates, in turn, is enthusiastic about the White House and bipartisan congressional efforts to boost the teaching of math and

science in American high schools with the long-term goal of expanding the supply of qualified Americans for these jobs.

He is backing that effort both with gifts of technology from the company and grants of $300 million a year from his foundation for innovation in high schools.

Opposition to the H1B

program grew during the dot-com bust, when groups representing domestic

electrical engineers and computer technicians argued that foreigners were taking away their jobs. The Bureau of Labor Statistics reports unemployment among computer and mathematical operators is less than three percent.

Still, there is reluctance — especially in the House of Representatives — to lift the ceiling on H1B visas in an election year.

The House has responded to public pressure to close the borders to illegal immigration and seems incapable of distinguishing that

problem from the value of encouraging high-skill workers to bring their talents to the United States.

That’s why Bill Gates comes to Washington.

Contact David Broder at
 
The man is not naive. He cares only with H1B's - and you should know why. Unlikely he will bother to speak on behalf of EB folks.

khodalmd said:
Unfortunately nothing for EB based green card. He is concern for H1B but not to retain this talent permanently !!

I think IV should take lead to persue him for EB category immigration problem.
 
I don't think his real intention is too exploit H1B like many other smaller employeer does. For him to pay H1Bs fair market rate is not a big deal, on the other hand, not able to get qualified people in is a huge deal for him, given the fact that the company has been constantly losing talents to its rivals.

The fact that he only care about H1B means exactly what he sees --- unable to get people to fill the position. Maybe he hasn't seen beyond that yet. But I don't think he will be aganist EB quote increase. A better climate benefits anybody who plays fairly.

marlon2006 said:
The man is not naive. He cares only with H1B's - and you should know why. Unlikely he will bother to speak on behalf of EB folks.

khodalmd said:
Unfortunately nothing for EB based green card. He is concern for H1B but not to retain this talent permanently !!

I think IV should take lead to persue him for EB category immigration problem.
 
EB immigration

Guys please do not speak on speculation. It was in part the microsoft lobby that initiated the push for the provisions in the budget bill S1932 last year.
They are for EB immigration. If they wanted expendible H1b labour alone then they would not have done that. Gates also said in that interview that they like their best programmers and developers closer to their management and clients. They have a business plan and it is not all involving outsourcing. If that was the case they would move faster since there are no rules prohibiting that.
The bigger tech companies do feel a shortage of high end technical labour who are team players and willing to settle down with them. The jobs he is talking about are 100K and above, that does not sound to me like someone interested in penny pinching wages by flooding the US with H1bs. Microsoft generally is considered a very good employer and have some of the best benefits as well. So if he says we need more guys he probably is seeing that crunch in quality people. Sub par and lazy programmers will not blame themselves, they need to play the blame game and we immigrants are easy fodder for them.
I only hope the US congress can come to have a balanced view.
 
What speculation ? Don't you realize that the primary issue on S.1932 was the H1B, then the EB issue was just appended to that one ? That's pretty obvious to me.

posmd said:
Guys please do not speak on speculation. It was in part the microsoft lobby that initiated the push for the provisions in the budget bill S1932 last year.
They are for EB immigration. If they wanted expendible H1b labour alone then they would not have done that. Gates also said in that interview that they like their best programmers and developers closer to their management and clients. They have a business plan and it is not all involving outsourcing. If that was the case they would move faster since there are no rules prohibiting that.
The bigger tech companies do feel a shortage of high end technical labour who are team players and willing to settle down with them. The jobs he is talking about are 100K and above, that does not sound to me like someone interested in penny pinching wages by flooding the US with H1bs. Microsoft generally is considered a very good employer and have some of the best benefits as well. So if he says we need more guys he probably is seeing that crunch in quality people. Sub par and lazy programmers will not blame themselves, they need to play the blame game and we immigrants are easy fodder for them.
I only hope the US congress can come to have a balanced view.
 
Fact or fiction?

How do you know that? Are you privy to some info we are not. As far as I know both provisions were added then dropped. These two things go together for a reason. Lets say you were right that they are after only H1b visas,
Anyone playing the game of demand and supply knows that additional EB immigrant folks will only add to the supply and therefore be of benefit to them in the labour market.
I simply cannot accept this is their main motivation based on these events.

marlon2006 said:
What speculation ? Don't you realize that the primary issue on S.1932 was the H1B, then the EB issue was just appended to that one ? That's pretty obvious to me.
 
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