Asylum based U.S Citizenship: Please help to answer my question

brad_asylee1993

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Hi. I was an asylee who became a U.S Citizen 4 years back. I immigrated from my COP to a 3rd country which issued me a temp visa. I immigrated from that country to U.S applied for asylum, interviewed and got approved.

My parents also immigrated from COP to a X neighboring country and stayed there while I left with my sisters. They did not want to come with us because they liked the X neighboring country and didn't think they could support us while in U.S. My dad is over 60 thats why at that time.

They managed to get the passport of that X neighboring country without even being citizens. On their passport(X neighboring country), its written that they are born in that X country. The X country doesn't know that they ever were citizens of my and their COP. They paid some money to some government official who said "whatever" and gave them a valid passport.

Now, My asylum is not fake at all. I was approved at instance by the officer with all the evidence present in front of him. He even acknowledged that I can't believe what you went through(news clippings with my family photos etc).

Since U.S Green card took so long to get and I didn't really want to take risks of travelling to the X country and be in trouble or have my parents in trouble. We all were safe and thats all we cared for.

Then my mom as moms are went nuts when I got in an accident and said she has to see me to make sure "I am ok" because she thought I was lying..You know how moms are?

So my parents with their X country passport applied for a U.S Visa saying they want to visit their brothers in U.S. The U.S embassy in country X issued them a 10 year visa right on the spot because of the amount of money(in millions) my dad showed to them in his account.

When my dad/mom came to U.S on a visitors visa in 1998 or so. I asked them to apply for asylum. But the way my dad is, he said, he does not want to go through that route and all he wanted was us to be safe and him/mom to be safe. So they travelled back/forth every 6 months from X country of whom they have the passport of but are not official citizens..

Now I became a U.S Citizen around Jan 2002 and asked him let me apply for you but he said the complication of our story will make it hard for them to be accepted.

On my asylum application, i wrote the truth that my parents were born in my COP which they were and they have an expired COP passport to prove it. Their Visa is on the X neighboring country passport which says they are born in the X neighboring country.

Now If I apply for them, first thing they woould ask for are the copies of his passport etc with visa which is ok but it says on the passport that born in X country...whereas my asylum application says born in COP ofcourse.

I am pretty sure if I apply for them, INS will go and look at my asylum application and match their names...which says their birth country as something different.

Now there are 2 solutions to this as I think

1) we file all paperwork with them being/born in X neighboring country but then I would have to acknowledge that in my asylum application, I didn't write correctly their birth place if asked in an Interview.

2)We file with my dad's COP passport but his X country visa(you can be citizens of 2 countries) but then they have to acknowldege that their X country passport is not good..or obtained in fraud correct? Even though the rules in x neighboring country was that if you show that you lived in that country for certain times and paid tax, you can obtain a passport. It is very complicated..its not like U.S. They can vote but they are not acknowledged officially(as in a certificate) from the government.


What shall I do? option 1 or option 2? I know this is complicated. My sisters are still GC holders and nothing is fraud here..its just complications that we brought up for no reasons...our situation is very unique and very weird. Any suggestions from anyone? Wantmygcnow, you seem very intelligent..can you give you opinion? Thankful? Anyone else?

I want totake your advise before going to a lawyer because I feel people here are more knowledgeable than a lawyer who only care for their money.

Please offer advice.
 
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I am not sure .. but I will tell u what I know ...

I dont remember where I hear this. but I've heard that "once u become a citizen they burn all ur asylum paper" ??? .. HAHA i know it is ridiculous. I dont believe it myself. but if it is true they erased all ur past. then I think u are safe to tell whatever facts that u have rite now. but then again. I dont know whether it is true or not. I just over heard it somewhere.
 
Miss Pink, it does not matter whether they have his asylum file or not (which I think they still do) because he had to put the same info regarding the place of birth of his parents on G-325A while applying for green card AND for applying for naturalization so it would not just be contradictory with info on forms filed for the asylum application but also on G-325A filed with I-485 and N-400, which I assume has the same birth place for his parents that his asylum application papers show.
 
this case is complicated indeed

this case is complicated indeed. because we are not talking about "explaining it to ONE person" ... :( ...
 
So we are talking about millions right? Well, how about an attorney rather then asking people on the forum? Do you really think that you will get solid advise here?
 
I think in this complicated case. One of you has to be wrong. Either your dad or you. I would suggest this,

1)Create all your documents based on the passport that has the U.S visa in it. If you tell USCIS that the passport is not valid and you got a visa in it. You would be found inadmissible.

2)Don't tell Dont ask policy. If USCIS doesn't ask you, dont tell them in advance. In your interview, you can say that she made a mistake. As long as the relation is genuine??

I doubt they will reverse you U.S citizenship but since your dad can be found inadmissible, his visa may be revoked and he may be deported.

Also make sure don't listen to any lawyers who claim that they can get your dad can get a "waiver". Waiver only applies to asylum applicants and in your case your dad is not an asylum applicant.

Think it through then file.
 
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wantmygcnow said:
Either your dad or your daughter who is sponsoring you. I would suggest this,
Did I miss something? I don't think he mentioned he has a daughter or that she sponsored him.
 
huchub (or should I call you mkhursh?) , I did not give my opinion on this person's case , so I am not sure if you have comprehension problems or you think I am the same person as want. Either way, stop namedropping me (as you also did on another thread in the subforum) . And get help for your fixation on want; it is not healthy.


Edited to add: there was a post here by huchub before this one that this post was in response to.
 
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clotty said:
huchub (or should I call you mkhursh?) , I did not give my opinion on this person's case , so I am not sure if you have comprehension problems or you think I am the same person as want. Either way, stop namedropping me (as you also did on another thread in the subforum) . And get help for your fixation on want; it is not healthy.

Clotty,

You do love wantmygcnow! I'm not surprise. You can call me mambasamba-in-the Jungle or mkurush, whatever makes you giddy.

It's not my fixation with wantmygcnow, just his inability to understand that he is not an attorney, neither are you or myself. You must be very lonely, so I suggest go out for a walk or drink, it will help you gather some momentum for a constructive post in future.

Huch :D
 
Instead of fighting with other memebrs go and talk to a lawyer.

How are you gonna apply for their asylum if they have protection from a 3rd country?Nobody will approve this application.
 
kalvar said:
Instead of fighting with other memebrs go and talk to a lawyer.
The threadstarter has not been fighting with anyone; he made his thread and that is about it; he has nothing to do with the rest of the posts on the thread. A banned member carrying a heavy bag of sour grapes came back with a different username for some vengeance , hence the "fight".
 
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