JoeF said:
In other words, police etc. may be practicing racial profiling...
Do you have any followup if there was a lawsuit about racial discrimination about that afterwards? Even if many people falsely claim US citizenship, police does not have a right to detain US citizens without probable cause.
Actually, the internment of Japanese-Americans during WW2 was unconstitutional, as is racial profiling. The police has no right to do racial profiling, and if they do, they deserve to be hit with a big lawsuit.
This country has laws, and the police is not above the laws. We are not in Al Capone's Chicago anymore...
And that is illegal as well. And people have filed lawsuits.
Being apologetic about these things here is the wrong thing. People lawfully in this country have rights under the US constitution, and racial profiling means violating these rights, and should be punished just like any other law violation.
The police would be sorry in the end.
That bill would essentially create a national ID card. It is basically an acknowledgement that the terrorists have won. We are losing our freedom and our way to live, and that's exactly what the terrorists wanted. Sad to see that Congress doesn't stand up to their constituents' rights.
Joe ...
why would a national ID card mean victory for terrorists ..? given the age we live in, it's high time we came up with a solution utilizing the technology at hand to identify our friends and foes ....
it may seem like the bad guys are winning, but ultimately, we are winning ... and improving at the same time ...
change is inevitable .. without an improvement in screening and identification .. we are putting ourselves at greater risk ..
we may not be in al capone's time any more, but whether you like it or not, the law will always support cops first, and assume the cop is right first .. burden of proof will always be upon you ... so you go to court, and show your proper ID which you did not have at the time, and you're let go ....
point is, you can avoid this by taking some basic precautions ... like carrying an ID in the first place ....
and believe me, no matter what the law says, there's always an inside thing where the law suppports cops by default .......
just as your boss would probably defend you when you have an argenment with a client ...
This country may have laws .. but there are other laws that work above the laws .... thats why you can only go so far with lawsuits and the like ...
the police will never be sorry in the end ... at least in these matters, infact, that would mean the govt would have to be sorry ...
it's different when police beat up some dude and it gets caught on camera .... and they get sued and pay ....