AOS Interview-Confused

Ambria

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My husband (Philippines) and I (US Citizen) went for the I-485 interview on July 13th. I should have known anything with 13 in the date is bad news. She asked questions that was on the application and how many children we each had and how many marriages. She asked for my passport which I did not bring since I did not think I needed mine since I am US citizen, but she wanted to see the stamps where I was in the Philippines, and an update on the sponsor, and my husband's son's rejected I-130 for lack of evidence plus 2005 income tax papers which seemed to disapear from my folder (I found it on my desk later).

She made us feel like we should have never married -- she was cold toward us (Orlando office) asking why I went overseas to marry a man I met on the internet and thought that was just awful of me doing and asking my husband why he married me.

My husband was never married before but on his son's birth certificate it has a marriage date due to the Catholic religion there being strict and child was born out of wedlock, but the ex got an annulment there in June 2000, before I knew him and we were married, and on it she claimed he ran away with another woman and had a child with her. This was placed there in order to get the annullment. Well, he only has one son and that was with the ex, but the immigration officer kept looking at my husband and saying - are you sure you have no more children? She made him feel like a criminal and would say things like - I want to beleive you but I have to do some research on this annulment....are you sure you have no more children? She took his I-94 and told us we needed to get the papers she requested.

She asked my husband when his EAD ran out and it is in March 2007, so she told him to go ahead and renew it if we did not hear anything by that time and to spend out the money to make sure it was renewed. She said if the AOS was denied, we could appeal to the Administratice courts since it would be an issue with the annulment paper. So, should we be concerned about this? Should my husband get some affidavits from the Philippines stating he has only one child and no other? Lawyer time? Any help appreciated. We have done everything legally and to get to this point and have it shot down by some crazed immigration person who was in my eyes, looking for anyway to deny any applications that came through her desk.

Tired of immigration bull.

Ambria
 
Ambria-

#1 I would have your husband talk with an attorney.
To be quite honest with you it doesn't sound like immigration Bull.
1) you didn't have adequate support evidence of your relationship ( passport, ect..) the fact that you met online sends an automatic red flag to USCIS so naturally they have to scrutinize your case thoroughly.

As far as the Son and previous "marriage" or lack there of. The fact that his sons birth certificate "fraudulently" stated marriage date ; opens up more reason for USCIS to be concerned.

If I were I would collect All the papers requested and then collect any additional info supporting your Philippine Husbands' relationship to you. ( photos, copies of letters, statements from freinds. joint utility bills ect..)

have him get any paperwork he can to show the anullmment and include a notorized statement from him & legal Affidavit from Philippines showing that he has terminated any previous marriages & is free to marry!Also he should get NOTORIZED affidavits stating how many children he has.

It actually sounds like the officer was being very flexible with you she even encouraged him to renew EAD, and basically said once you get the paperwork she requested your case can be approved.

Don't act so shocked as your case does raise a lot of red flags, just relax get the info requested and work on establishing your relationship with your husband. Open up joint accounts, be sure to have your 2006 taxes filed Jointly. Your case will get approved, It sounds like you will unprepared for the interview and left a lot of untied lose ends ,enough to draw scrutiny. Your husband needs to take care of these issues and probably needs an attorney at least to consult him on what doucments he needs prepared!

Good luck

remember USCIS does not know you or your husband all they have to go on is what evidence you have provided them. You knwo your husband is not a criminal don't take what USCIS says personally remember they face a lot of fraud cases so they are conditioned to dig deep and scrutinize anything that looks out of the ordinary.
 
Well said Addie.

OP,
If approval came with or without proper documentation, then what is the point of having any documentation? It's like any process, really. Imagine you showed up to get a mortgage and told the loan officer your W2s were fake but he should trust you on your income anyway. You think you'd get the loan?

Really no need to take offense to this and it's not immigration bull. The immigration officer is doing her job. It is up to YOU to get your act together and provide the required documentation.

Addie_Goodvibes said:
Ambria-

#1 I would have your husband talk with an attorney.
To be quite honest with you it doesn't sound like immigration Bull.
1) you didn't have adequate support evidence of your relationship ( passport, ect..) the fact that you met online sends an automatic red flag to USCIS so naturally they have to scrutinize your case thoroughly.

As far as the Son and previous "marriage" or lack there of. The fact that his sons birth certificate "fraudulently" stated marriage date ; opens up more reason for USCIS to be concerned.

If I were I would collect All the papers requested and then collect any additional info supporting your Philippine Husbands' relationship to you. ( photos, copies of letters, statements from freinds. joint utility bills ect..)

have him get any paperwork he can to show the anullmment and include a notorized statement from him & legal Affidavit from Philippines showing that he has terminated any previous marriages & is free to marry!Also he should get NOTORIZED affidavits stating how many children he has.

It actually sounds like the officer was being very flexible with you she even encouraged him to renew EAD, and basically said once you get the paperwork she requested your case can be approved.

Don't act so shocked as your case does raise a lot of red flags, just relax get the info requested and work on establishing your relationship with your husband. Open up joint accounts, be sure to have your 2006 taxes filed Jointly. Your case will get approved, It sounds like you will unprepared for the interview and left a lot of untied lose ends ,enough to draw scrutiny. Your husband needs to take care of these issues and probably needs an attorney at least to consult him on what doucments he needs prepared!

Good luck

remember USCIS does not know you or your husband all they have to go on is what evidence you have provided them. You knwo your husband is not a criminal don't take what USCIS says personally remember they face a lot of fraud cases so they are conditioned to dig deep and scrutinize anything that looks out of the ordinary.
 
eddie_d said:
Well said Addie.

OP,
If approval came with or without proper documentation, then what is the point of having any documentation? It's like any process, really. Imagine you showed up to get a mortgage and told the loan officer your W2s were fake but he should trust you on your income anyway. You think you'd get the loan?

Really no need to take offense to this and it's not immigration bull. The immigration officer is doing her job. It is up to YOU to get your act together and provide the required documentation.

I couldn't have said it any better.

@Ambria
You go to the interview w/o your passport although you can read EVERYWHERE that you should bring one. Even if you don't do any research prior to the process you can find that information on the invitation. A list of ducuments you should bring. Then you forget documents at home.
Now you blame it on the officer ??
What's the matter with you ? Get your things together and start proving your case in an orderly manner.

Just in case you feel offended, think about all those people still waiting for an interview at your DO. A spot taken by you not being well prepared.
 
rex1960 said:
I couldn't have said it any better.

@Ambria
You go to the interview w/o your passport although you can read EVERYWHERE that you should bring one. Even if you don't do any research prior to the process you can find that information on the invitation. A list of ducuments you should bring. Then you forget documents at home.
Now you blame it on the officer ??
What's the matter with you ? Get your things together and start proving your case in an orderly manner.

Just in case you feel offended, think about all those people still waiting for an interview at your DO. A spot taken by you not being well prepared.

The letter never mentioned my passport so I did not bring it. I am not trying to blame the officer for anything. Yes, I forgot things and she gave us until the end of Sept. to get these in. That was no problem. As far as blaming me for taking a spot, it was never my intention to 'forget' papers. I just forgot one and that was the 2005 income tax paper. I did not come on here to have rude remarks thrown at me. The only concern was, the annulment paper. Enough said...I thought this place was for getting help or some suggestions to the good, not to hammer at someone who 'forgot' something.
 
Addie_Goodvibes said:
Ambria-

#1 I would have your husband talk with an attorney.
To be quite honest with you it doesn't sound like immigration Bull.
1) you didn't have adequate support evidence of your relationship ( passport, ect..) the fact that you met online sends an automatic red flag to USCIS so naturally they have to scrutinize your case thoroughly.

As far as the Son and previous "marriage" or lack there of. The fact that his sons birth certificate "fraudulently" stated marriage date ; opens up more reason for USCIS to be concerned.

If I were I would collect All the papers requested and then collect any additional info supporting your Philippine Husbands' relationship to you. ( photos, copies of letters, statements from freinds. joint utility bills ect..)

have him get any paperwork he can to show the anullmment and include a notorized statement from him & legal Affidavit from Philippines showing that he has terminated any previous marriages & is free to marry!Also he should get NOTORIZED affidavits stating how many children he has.

It actually sounds like the officer was being very flexible with you she even encouraged him to renew EAD, and basically said once you get the paperwork she requested your case can be approved.

Don't act so shocked as your case does raise a lot of red flags, just relax get the info requested and work on establishing your relationship with your husband. Open up joint accounts, be sure to have your 2006 taxes filed Jointly. Your case will get approved, It sounds like you will unprepared for the interview and left a lot of untied lose ends ,enough to draw scrutiny. Your husband needs to take care of these issues and probably needs an attorney at least to consult him on what doucments he needs prepared!

Good luck

remember USCIS does not know you or your husband all they have to go on is what evidence you have provided them. You knwo your husband is not a criminal don't take what USCIS says personally remember they face a lot of fraud cases so they are conditioned to dig deep and scrutinize anything that looks out of the ordinary.

Thank you and I appreciate the kind words. In the Philippines, the Catholic religion shuns people for having son out of wedlock and they did go from my understanding to get married but no ceromony was preformed no such records came up in the courts of this marriage) and when his son was born, they (I don't know who 'they' were) but somehow there was a marriage date with no marriage. The first time we seen the annullment paper was a few weeks ago when his 'ex' sent it over here to him. It was quite a shock to see she had placed in there that he had another child. I hear the Philippines is quite a place for things like this to happen.

Thanks for being kind.

Ambria
 
Ambria said:
Thank you and I appreciate the kind words. In the Philippines, the Catholic religion shuns people for having son out of wedlock and they did go from my understanding to get married but no ceromony was preformed no such records came up in the courts of this marriage) and when his son was born, they (I don't know who 'they' were) but somehow there was a marriage date with no marriage. The first time we seen the annullment paper was a few weeks ago when his 'ex' sent it over here to him. It was quite a shock to see she had placed in there that he had another child. I hear the Philippines is quite a place for things like this to happen.

Thanks for being kind.

Ambria

Ambria-
I understand your intentions, and YES the Philippines is known for a lot of things like this to happen, The church has a lot of Power and political pull in Philippines this often leads to corrupt ways of doing business or things get handled not neccesarily by the book. Some of the individuals on this forum may seem a little intolerant but often they have everything in order and still get delayed so it can be frusterating!

I undertsand your situation I don't see you as taking others ' spots, just see this as a lesson and don't take anything with the USCIS lightly,Also don't take what a USCIS officer says Personally either, They can be rude at times :( and face it we all know that most Govt. employees have a reputation of not being the best at dealing with people :rolleyes: ( DMV, USPS, USCIS ) . Be more than prepared BE OVER PREPARED, double check everything. Copy everything, cross t's dot I's Don't give them any reason to doubt you and they won't . Their Job is to scrutinize and it is in the best interest of the Security & Integrity of USA and the benefit of those who go through the AOS process the correct way.

look at this way .....

This is the most Serious Urgent process you and your family will ever undergo
Your whole future, your childrens future and your family depends on the outcome of this case. Keep your husband on track to get his end of obligations in order. Just focus forward and things will work out.

Good Luck ;)
 
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