3 year degree

tsnaresh

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Hi All,

are there any I140 approvals with 3 year degree plus 1 year certification course (when labor cert says bachelor degree or equivalent)? I am noticing service centers are not accepting combination of degree for bachelor's equivalency. I see lot of I140 denials on this basis but I would like to know if there are any approvals.

Thanks.
 
Has anyone tried to get a course by course education evaluation to determine if it is equivalent to US BS?

I think this is the only hope. For instance BS (Comp. Sc) 3 years degree may be equivalent to US BS (4 years) after a course by course evaluation. (These are just my thoughts)
 
BS equivalent

Would BS(3 years) and MS 2(years) be accepted? Or is it also not accepted as its combination degree?
 
not accepted

sanb,

I think, the SC won't accept 3 year and 2 year degree.

LCUSER, It is a good idea but it is difficult to prove 3 year degree equals to 4 year. 3 year degree probably won't meet the number of credit hours.

Thanks.
 
tsnaresh

Quick question for you.

What if the person has 3 yrs B.S. degree and 3 yrs M.S. degree and the LC states that "Must have a Bachelor's degree in CS or Electronics or related field and 2 yrs of Experience or 2 Yrs of Experience in a related position".

How would the officer interpret this?. The person has a Master's degree even though the requirement is only Bachelor's degree.

Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Dave

Originally posted by tsnaresh
sanb,

I think, the SC won't accept 3 year and 2 year degree.

LCUSER, It is a good idea but it is difficult to prove 3 year degree equals to 4 year. 3 year degree probably won't meet the number of credit hours.

Thanks.
 
Guys,

On the LC (which form and in what section) , where does it specify the degree requirements.

I would like to find out what has been specified on my LC.

Thanks
 
Dealing with a "Bachelor's Degree or Equivalent" Formulation

One way to reconcile the inconsistency is to require the job to have a baccalaureate degree "or equivalent" on the labor certification. However, if the employer plans to rely on the "or equivalent" formula, he or she should define what is meant by equivalent experience. For instance, in one case, the petitioner, a computer consulting firm, sought to employ the beneficiary as a senior analyst/programmer. The Form ETA-750 indicated that the position required a bachelor's degree in computer science, computer communication systems, or related field, or equivalent experience. The director denied the petition because he determined that the petitioner had not established that the beneficiary had the equivalent of a U.S. baccalaureate degree in the enumerated fields. On appeal, counsel for petitioner submitted documentation to establish that the beneficiary had a combination of education and experience to meet the requirements set forth in ETA-750 prior to the filing date. The AAO dismissed the appeal, finding that the petitioner had not specified what was meant by "equivalent experience," and that the actual minimum requirements could have been clarified or changed before the ETA-750 was certified by the DOL [4].

Many practitioners define "or equivalent" according to the H-1B formulation-3 years of experience is equal to one year of education. However, relying on this formulation and substituting twelve years of experience for a US bachelor's degree may often be rejected by the DOL as being too restrictive as well as exceeding the educational and training requirements for the position [5]. Even if there is a way to justify this, DOL objects to the usage of "or equivalent" as the advertisement is targeted toward US workers and not foreign workers. If the bachelor "or equivalent" degree requirement can be included and defined in the labor certification application, an BCIS Service Center may be more amenable to approving the EB-3 petition. For example, in a petition for an "information engineering consultant," the petitioner, a provider of computer-related professional services, specifically stated in the ETA-750, that it would consider candidates without a B.S. degree in computer science that possess ten years of work experience. The AAO granted the petition, because the requirements on the labor certification included an alternative requirement of experience, which the beneficiary demonstrated [6]. It should be noted, however, that the ten years of experience relied upon as an alternative to a US degree falls short by two years under the "3 to 1" formula.

In the event that the BCIS continues to insist that the employee possess a straight foreign degree equivalent, without the work experience component, it can nevertheless be argued that he or she could qualify as an EB-3 skilled worker instead of a professional. For instance, in one case, the BCIS center director had denied the visa preference petition on grounds that the petitioner had not established that the proffered position required the services of a "member of the professions." On appeal, although the AAU found that the director correctly determined that a baccalaureate degree is not the minimum requirement for entry into the position, it held that the center director should have considered the petition under the "skilled worker" classification [7]. If the petition is ultimately approved, the consistency in the job requirements between the H-1B and permanent residency applications is maintained.
 
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