2Nd notification letter
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A few weeks ago I asked and they told me that they had my forms, that they were being processed and that it took several weeks to process. I am giving them this week before I ask again. I will call next week.
Do you know what do they really do with forms when they say 'processing'? I always thought that they fill name/surname/dob and forward to embassy.
I have no idea! Well, I hope the process goes faster and faster and we all get our 2NL. It would be an improvement to stop worrying about the 2nl and start worrying about the actual interview
SusieQQQ
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They do more than that, because they flag applications that might have factors disqualifying them. Exactly what they do, I don't know.
Do you know what are those disqualification factors? Do they do background check etc?
SusieQQQ
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I have no idea. I just came across a DoS doc on the web recently that mentioned it (I posted the extract in another thread I think). I was always under the impression that the consulates did the background check but it's possible KCC passes some on to whatever agency. I assumed the KCC flags would be more in terms of things like not meeting the education/work requirement. I do know KCC can't disqualify you, only the consular officer can do that.
Edit: I thought KCC could disqualify if there have been duplicate entries, but apparently they don't anymore (had in the past) as they may not be seen to be adjuicating decisions; but they notify the embassy if they have found duplicate entries so one would get disqualified then.
Incidentally they also provide software so that the consulate can compare the submitted photograph there with the one on the application, and pick up impostors this way. P26 onwards in this is quite illuminating; it's also a few years old and I guess they have tightened up even more since. http://books.google.co.za/books?id=...CDcQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=kcc disqualify&f=false
And this is also part of the processing, so yes background checks start there:
"The KCC conducts Consular Lookout and Support System (CLASS) name checks on all applicants and submits Visas Eagle Security Advisory Opinion (SAOs) where required. For applicants determined to require a SAO other than a Visas Eagle, an electronic note is made in the case record. You must make the final determination as to whether an SAO is required."
http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/87840.pdf
The bit about flagging the application also comes from the above link:
"The KCC will create a DV immigrant visa (IV) file on the principal applicant and qualifying dependents. These files will be shipped to post prior to the visa interview. In cases where a potentially disqualifying factor has been identified at the KCC during case creation, a note will be made in the electronic case file. The file folder will then be stamped “KCC FPU Reviewed” and a red memorandum noting the existence of the disqualifying factor will be included in the paper file for post action."
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Hi there
My case number is 2014AS000001xx and I was super anxious as well. I just called KCC. She lady told me they were still processing my forms and they only schedule October interviews in August, that means we don't make the cut for October. She doubted if they would finish processing my forms in September and she told me to call again before October 15 if I still don't get the second notification by September 30. Granted I sent my forms in the middle of August so no complaining but a December interview for an otherwise October case number is just bummer. Just wanted to let you know.
My case number is 2014AS000001xx and I was super anxious as well. I just called KCC. She lady told me they were still processing my forms and they only schedule October interviews in August, that means we don't make the cut for October. She doubted if they would finish processing my forms in September and she told me to call again before October 15 if I still don't get the second notification by September 30. Granted I sent my forms in the middle of August so no complaining but a December interview for an otherwise October case number is just bummer. Just wanted to let you know.
Thanks for detailed answer SusieQQQ. Their side of processing is fraud check basically.
i am in confusion that what actually that 50000 annually distrubuted visas mean?does it contain the visas for those derivatives also?and next kcc has registered around 140k applicants this year.140k applicants means with or without derivatives?
i read a lot of thread but couldnot get clear idea!so expecting the clear idea about this!!!
i read a lot of thread but couldnot get clear idea!so expecting the clear idea about this!!!
SusieQQQ
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50000 is all the issued visas including derivatives.
The 140000 is the number drawn, also (as far as I believe from Dept of State documents) including derivatives.
With so many winners drawn this year, many people here - myself included - think the visa quota will be filled before all the winners have a chance for interview.
The 140000 is the number drawn, also (as far as I believe from Dept of State documents) including derivatives.
With so many winners drawn this year, many people here - myself included - think the visa quota will be filled before all the winners have a chance for interview.
SusieQQQ
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I know there's been debate about this, but I have seen DoS documents that state the number of published winners include derivatives. Some people here claim these are "typos". Intuitively I don't believe the past few years could possibly have had all numbers current by year end if the number of winners drawn was principal applicants only.
SusieQQQ
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I've posted the link and the relevant extract before in another thread. To be honest I don't feel like engaging in a time-consuming search to find it again...