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INS to find out out-of-status people and deport
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Relax friend,
INS cannot that easily find out people and deport them. If you have filed for 485, then you are in status and cannot be asked to leave till a decision is made on your 485. However, if you are in H1 with no 485, then you are in trouble. You are technically out of status. Find a new job ASAP. INS is lenient to genuine people who are suffering cause of economic downturn. So relax and try to find a job
Relax friend,
INS cannot that easily find out people and deport them. If you have filed for 485, then you are in status and cannot be asked to leave till a decision is made on your 485. However, if you are in H1 with no 485, then you are in trouble. You are technically out of status. Find a new job ASAP. INS is lenient to genuine people who are suffering cause of economic downturn. So relax and try to find a job
H-1 & laid off better leave the country!!!
I know lots of H-1b visa holders left to their native country smart move. Let\'s say if you worked here for a year or two and earned US experience I think chances are you will find job relatively easy than someone who never came here are looking for job in native land. Under such circumstances who want to stay here illegally and jeopradise future entry to US. My suggestion if you came here on H-1b and lost job seriously and quickly leave the country so 3 or 10 year bar does not apply to you. US is in recession and before it goes away it will take 12 -18 months if not more especially in tech sector. After that can you imagine how many us citizens and green card holders will be hunting for the same spot and willing to work for less money. Tight labor law will not allow a consulting firms to pay less that the approved wage and tough competition can only lead not to sponosr or cancell the status of H-1 and look for another business. H-1b holder will getting nothing but deportation or future ban notice at the end. So, why listen to those and wait and use credit card not practical. They will get you no matter where you are these days. H-1b visa holder without job and 485 pending future is bleak in this country atleast for next few years...Do not waste your time, rasie your blood pressure and stress level cause it ain\'t worth it. rest what to say you are PROFESSIONAL>................
I know lots of H-1b visa holders left to their native country smart move. Let\'s say if you worked here for a year or two and earned US experience I think chances are you will find job relatively easy than someone who never came here are looking for job in native land. Under such circumstances who want to stay here illegally and jeopradise future entry to US. My suggestion if you came here on H-1b and lost job seriously and quickly leave the country so 3 or 10 year bar does not apply to you. US is in recession and before it goes away it will take 12 -18 months if not more especially in tech sector. After that can you imagine how many us citizens and green card holders will be hunting for the same spot and willing to work for less money. Tight labor law will not allow a consulting firms to pay less that the approved wage and tough competition can only lead not to sponosr or cancell the status of H-1 and look for another business. H-1b holder will getting nothing but deportation or future ban notice at the end. So, why listen to those and wait and use credit card not practical. They will get you no matter where you are these days. H-1b visa holder without job and 485 pending future is bleak in this country atleast for next few years...Do not waste your time, rasie your blood pressure and stress level cause it ain\'t worth it. rest what to say you are PROFESSIONAL>................
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I think Final stage is having a pessimistic outlook. There are lots of H1 B who were laid off and managed to find a job. I am one in that. Though it took about two months, I was persistent and was eventually able to find something. Things are equally bad in India and getting a job even in India will be near to impossible. I have friends who have gone back and are sitting at home for about 6 months now. Try to be positive and give it the best shot you have. I am sure something will come up. Best of luck.
I think Final stage is having a pessimistic outlook. There are lots of H1 B who were laid off and managed to find a job. I am one in that. Though it took about two months, I was persistent and was eventually able to find something. Things are equally bad in India and getting a job even in India will be near to impossible. I have friends who have gone back and are sitting at home for about 6 months now. Try to be positive and give it the best shot you have. I am sure something will come up. Best of luck.
mrv, why don\'t u shut the F&%* off
Why are u spreading stinking ideas on this website daily with no base? Are u on the bench and got nothing to do???? Try to improve technical skills than cooking some stinking ideas and spread on this site. Or we all let INS know about u and ship back to ur home country.
Why are u spreading stinking ideas on this website daily with no base? Are u on the bench and got nothing to do???? Try to improve technical skills than cooking some stinking ideas and spread on this site. Or we all let INS know about u and ship back to ur home country.
I think mrv may be referring to this article posted in
todays hindustantimes
http://www.hindustantimes.com/nonfram/061201/dlame65.asp
and washingtonpost so it does have some basis. Dont shoot the messenger.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A64742-2001Dec5.html
todays hindustantimes
http://www.hindustantimes.com/nonfram/061201/dlame65.asp
and washingtonpost so it does have some basis. Dont shoot the messenger.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A64742-2001Dec5.html
please do not make such statements
I do not post something which we do not want to think about.
These are facts.you simply do not want to discuss.
and this is a discussion board where we can share our ideas.
There are numerous articles on INS cracking down.
I have posted the same and want others to express their opinions.
This discussion board is dedicated to discuss our ideas and what we hear outside.
mean while,do not worry about my job.
I am in great job with no worries about it.
If you do not like it simply ignore.do not try to limit me.
I have not posted so far any thing in personal to any body.
hope to see some improvement in you.
I do not post something which we do not want to think about.
These are facts.you simply do not want to discuss.
and this is a discussion board where we can share our ideas.
There are numerous articles on INS cracking down.
I have posted the same and want others to express their opinions.
This discussion board is dedicated to discuss our ideas and what we hear outside.
mean while,do not worry about my job.
I am in great job with no worries about it.
If you do not like it simply ignore.do not try to limit me.
I have not posted so far any thing in personal to any body.
hope to see some improvement in you.
It\'s INS\' job to do this
An H-1 worker who is not working is not maintaining H-1 status. This means that the person is here illegally and is subject to removal. I don\'t know why this would come as a surprise to anyone. It\'s one of INS\' jobs to remove those who are not here legally.
Jim
An H-1 worker who is not working is not maintaining H-1 status. This means that the person is here illegally and is subject to removal. I don\'t know why this would come as a surprise to anyone. It\'s one of INS\' jobs to remove those who are not here legally.
Jim
scary!
Be careful how you speak ...
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1101011210-186633,00.html
Be careful how you speak ...
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1101011210-186633,00.html
After reading the article
it sounds like they are after a whole bunch of people who are here illegally, caught by INS sometime ago, and ran away from the courts to avoid deportation. An H1 who lost job a day before can not be an illegal alien subject to deportation the very next day. Although it is not official and moreover there is no certain set of rules for how long a laid off H1b can stay in US without a new H1 process, American generousity could provide sometime to get a new H1.
As it is implied by mrv posting, that deportation on the next day of loosing job for H1 people makes NO SENSE.
it sounds like they are after a whole bunch of people who are here illegally, caught by INS sometime ago, and ran away from the courts to avoid deportation. An H1 who lost job a day before can not be an illegal alien subject to deportation the very next day. Although it is not official and moreover there is no certain set of rules for how long a laid off H1b can stay in US without a new H1 process, American generousity could provide sometime to get a new H1.
As it is implied by mrv posting, that deportation on the next day of loosing job for H1 people makes NO SENSE.
Nightmare at INS POE for H1B Applicant!
From Murthy Bulletin: 12/7/01
2. Travel Warning : Nightmare at INS POE for H1B Applicant!
----------------------------------------------------------
Many people have travel plans for the upcoming holidays. For those of you
traveling from overseas, we recommend the exercise of common sense combined
with extreme caution when applying for reentry into the U.S. On Nov. 2,
2001, we reported an incident involving innocent inquiries by an engineer on
a long haul flight regarding the operation of an airplane emergency door.
The NewsBrief, entitled "Restrain your Curiosity when Traveling! - A
Cautionary Tale" is available on
MurthyDotCom. We now have learned of an incident where an otherwise
innocuous business card resulted in an H1B applicant\'s having been denied
entry into the U.S.
The applicant had been working in the U.S. on valid H1B status. He traveled
out of the country for the Thanksgiving holiday, in November 2001, to attend
a friend\'s wedding in Italy. The return flights were diverted from
originally being Washington, D.C. to San Francisco to instead come into
Chicago and then go on to San Francisco. Upon his return, the INS officer at
the Chicago Port of Entry (POE) noticed that the H1B applicant had a
business card with him. The INS officer asked to see the business card.
Apparently, the business card was for a side business / hobby which the H1B
visa applicant hoped to pursue upon obtaining appropriate employment
authorization document (EAD). The I-485 had been filed about a month
earlier, so the person was expecting the EAD within the next month or two.
After asking some questions, the INS officer at the Port of Entry determined
that the alien was probably violating the terms of the H1B status by
intending to work without authorization. The H1B applicant was a
professional who was working for the H1B employer and had maintained status
throughout his life. He had attended a weekend photography course at the
University of California at Santa Barbara. He repeatedly pointed out to the
INS officer that he had never worked for the photography business, that he
had just put some details up on the website about 5 days earlier, and that
he was hoping to do some studio shots as a photographer and as a hobbyist in
the future. The INS officer refused to allow the H1B visa applicant the
right to use his cellular telephone to contact an attorney or call any
friends, forced him to sign a statement that he intended to work in the
U.S., threatening to put him into detention if he did not sign the
statements to that effect. The H1B applicant was denied entry to the U.S.
and chose the option of buying an expensive, one-way ticket, rather than
spending a night in an INS detention facility. He was returned on the next
flight back to his home country of India.
In light of this and similar post-9/11 incidents, we remind our
MURTHYBULLETIN and MurthyDotCom readers that your luggage and belongings are
always subject to search. This is even more prevalent since September 11th,
as part of INS increased security measures. Out of an abundance of caution,
it is better to assume that all of your personal items will be searched. We
have heard of situations where letters and photographs were used against
people to deny them entry into the U.S. It is recommended that travelers
pack as lightly as possible and limit their carry-on luggage to those items
that are absolutely necessary. This is both a practical solution to avoid
lengthy waiting for check in at the security gates and should assist in
smooth processing upon reentry to the U.S.
© The Law Office of Sheela Murthy P.C.
From Murthy Bulletin: 12/7/01
2. Travel Warning : Nightmare at INS POE for H1B Applicant!
----------------------------------------------------------
Many people have travel plans for the upcoming holidays. For those of you
traveling from overseas, we recommend the exercise of common sense combined
with extreme caution when applying for reentry into the U.S. On Nov. 2,
2001, we reported an incident involving innocent inquiries by an engineer on
a long haul flight regarding the operation of an airplane emergency door.
The NewsBrief, entitled "Restrain your Curiosity when Traveling! - A
Cautionary Tale" is available on
MurthyDotCom. We now have learned of an incident where an otherwise
innocuous business card resulted in an H1B applicant\'s having been denied
entry into the U.S.
The applicant had been working in the U.S. on valid H1B status. He traveled
out of the country for the Thanksgiving holiday, in November 2001, to attend
a friend\'s wedding in Italy. The return flights were diverted from
originally being Washington, D.C. to San Francisco to instead come into
Chicago and then go on to San Francisco. Upon his return, the INS officer at
the Chicago Port of Entry (POE) noticed that the H1B applicant had a
business card with him. The INS officer asked to see the business card.
Apparently, the business card was for a side business / hobby which the H1B
visa applicant hoped to pursue upon obtaining appropriate employment
authorization document (EAD). The I-485 had been filed about a month
earlier, so the person was expecting the EAD within the next month or two.
After asking some questions, the INS officer at the Port of Entry determined
that the alien was probably violating the terms of the H1B status by
intending to work without authorization. The H1B applicant was a
professional who was working for the H1B employer and had maintained status
throughout his life. He had attended a weekend photography course at the
University of California at Santa Barbara. He repeatedly pointed out to the
INS officer that he had never worked for the photography business, that he
had just put some details up on the website about 5 days earlier, and that
he was hoping to do some studio shots as a photographer and as a hobbyist in
the future. The INS officer refused to allow the H1B visa applicant the
right to use his cellular telephone to contact an attorney or call any
friends, forced him to sign a statement that he intended to work in the
U.S., threatening to put him into detention if he did not sign the
statements to that effect. The H1B applicant was denied entry to the U.S.
and chose the option of buying an expensive, one-way ticket, rather than
spending a night in an INS detention facility. He was returned on the next
flight back to his home country of India.
In light of this and similar post-9/11 incidents, we remind our
MURTHYBULLETIN and MurthyDotCom readers that your luggage and belongings are
always subject to search. This is even more prevalent since September 11th,
as part of INS increased security measures. Out of an abundance of caution,
it is better to assume that all of your personal items will be searched. We
have heard of situations where letters and photographs were used against
people to deny them entry into the U.S. It is recommended that travelers
pack as lightly as possible and limit their carry-on luggage to those items
that are absolutely necessary. This is both a practical solution to avoid
lengthy waiting for check in at the security gates and should assist in
smooth processing upon reentry to the U.S.
© The Law Office of Sheela Murthy P.C.
Amrish Shah
Registered Users (C)
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If you applied for 484 then you iwll be deported since you should have filed for 485
If you applied for 484 then you iwll be deported since you should have filed for 485
They also asked me for business card.
Back in February 2001, while entering on H1-B officer at Chicago POE also asked for my business card. I said I am on vacation and I dont have any and he smiled and said Ok. Unless you are clumsy or staple business card with your passport, how in the wrold an officer at POE is going to notice that you\'re carrying a Business card with you. All these horror stories suggest that lets dont be over smart while dealing with outside world and these authorities. Its very obvious that they\'re workin with zero tolerance now on.
Back in February 2001, while entering on H1-B officer at Chicago POE also asked for my business card. I said I am on vacation and I dont have any and he smiled and said Ok. Unless you are clumsy or staple business card with your passport, how in the wrold an officer at POE is going to notice that you\'re carrying a Business card with you. All these horror stories suggest that lets dont be over smart while dealing with outside world and these authorities. Its very obvious that they\'re workin with zero tolerance now on.
You\'re right, but . . .
There are thousands of people that enter the US every day and have no problems at all. Remember, a couple of problems are not unusual and do not necessarily indicate a shift in INS policy. People sometime did stupid things at border crossings before September 11 and had problems. I\'ve known of people being denied entry long before September 11.
Jim
There are thousands of people that enter the US every day and have no problems at all. Remember, a couple of problems are not unusual and do not necessarily indicate a shift in INS policy. People sometime did stupid things at border crossings before September 11 and had problems. I\'ve known of people being denied entry long before September 11.
Jim