Oath in another 3 days got speeding ticket
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Technically you're supposed to disclose it on oath letter as it's considered a citation. The issue in doing so is that some IOs may request proof of payment. The alternative is not to disclose this minor traffic citation on the oath letter and go on with oath..it's not something that will cause you to be denaturalized later.
pay the ticket in person and show the receipt on oath date.
WhichWay2Go
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I would go to the issuing Court and pay it today. Ask for a certified copy of the Disposition and then declare it on the form. Take that Certified copy with you to the Oath. It is not a big deal offense to USCIS and you are going to have to pay it anyway.
It take some times for the cop who gave the OP the ticket to forward the
ticket information to the court. Before that, the court can not accept
your payment. So the OP may not even able to pay the ticket even he
wants to. Of course he can just send a check out and use the copy of check
as proof of payment if that is accetable by USCIS
For those who have not reached this point yet: avoid getting a ticket
during the last week. Let the citizen spouse do the driving
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It all depends on whether you are planning to plead not guilty and challenge the summons in court or if you're planning to plead guilty and pay it. If it's the latter, go to the court that handles traffic violations and pay the ticket. However, keep in mind that a speeding offense normally carries points, which will most likely result in your insurance premiums being raised for the next 3-5 years. If you're 100% sure that you won't be able to beat the ticket in court, go ahead and pay it. However, consider the fact that you're being charged with driving 15 mph over the posted speed limit. That puts the violation into the 2nd tier (over 11 mph), which carries severe point penalties (up to 4 points), depending on the state where the ticket was issued.
Two days may not enough to do that because the cop
may not forward teh ticket to teh court in 2 days so that
the court can not accept your payment at this moment.
Not necessarily. Here in Pennsylvania, the cops have been in pratice of not issuing speeeidng tickt to speeding (even 15mph above limit), not issuing stop sign ticket to stop sign villation. Instead they usually issue a "obedience
of traffic control device" to all regular traffiv violations that carries no point.
The cop often say this "I am doing you a favor by giving you this kind of ticket". By doing this cops temp drivers not to go to court so both sides
think they win
Some states print the payment schedule on the back of the ticket, which allows the violator to go to the traffic court and pay the violation as soon as the ticket is received.
This is exactly why I put in the "depending on the state" disclaimer in my original response. In New York, a 11-20 mph over limit speeding violation carries a 4 point penalty. A ticket for disobeying a traffic control device carries 3 points.
And I can tell you that 24 mph over the limit on the Belt Pkwy will cost you 6 points...
And I can tell you that 24 mph over the limit on the Belt Pkwy will cost you 6 points...
I don't even know how you managed that, considering that the average speed of traffic on the Belt is usually 24 mph UNDER the limit!
Thats not necessarily true. If you have the ticket, the clerks can manually enter the ticket info and receive the fine from you. They dont have any objections taking your money,,
They did take my fine though it was not in the system and the clerk manually entered the info before the officer did.I was in the same situation.. only I got the ticket 2 days before my oath. Had it not been the oath ceremony, I wouldve contested and requested for Deferred Adjudication. However, I didnt want to delay the oath and did pay my 195 dollar fine for "4 miles" over the speed limit.
Some of you are always thinking that the state traffic laws are the same. It isnt,, for instance in WA state, there is no point system for violations, there is no option of taking defensive driving lessons to lower your fine, you cannot have a "no contest' and still have ding on your driving records... there are many things that are different from state to state.
To the orgiginal poster,, its your choice. Either way, you have to disclose whether you got a traffic citation when you turn in your form for oath ceremony. If you did pay the fine, they will ask for proof or reciept and they will let you take the oath,, Thats what they did with my case.
Al Southner
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OP,
There is no conceivable way for USCIS to bust your nachos over this speeding ticket. I am surprise about the hoopla as it relates to this particular simple and straightforward case. You need to call the county which issued the ticket, give them the ticket number and see if they can pull it up from the system. If the ticket exist, go to the county and pay the ticket with credit card, get copy of the disposition and all required information and take that to the oath ceremony. Assuming that you are minted and given your N certificate, then apply for a US passport immediately, and after that, call your credit card company and block the charge from the county. Immediately call the county and tell them you are contesting the ticket and request a hearing. Don't take it lying down like most people do here, fight even though you were speeding. Hope the officer is sick or on vacation, the ticket will most likely be dismissed if he/she doesn't show up.
I was busted about 6 years ago on the NJ Turnpike, going at 102 mph in a 65mph, sports cars are fast and it was begging my foot to press down for some more. I hired a lawyer and fought the ticket, the prosecutor agreed to merge all 2 tickets (reckless driving and speeding), it became speeding ticket at 20 mph above speed limit. In my defense, I thought the I-95 sign were speed requirements for me. I speed at 95..(I-95)
There is no conceivable way for USCIS to bust your nachos over this speeding ticket. I am surprise about the hoopla as it relates to this particular simple and straightforward case.
You need to call the county which issued the ticket, give them the ticket number and see if they can pull it up from the system. If the ticket exist, go to the county and pay the ticket with credit card, get copy of the disposition and all required information and take that to the oath ceremony. Assuming that you are minted and given your N certificate, then apply for a US passport immediately, and after that, call your credit card company and block the charge from the county. Immediately call the county and tell them you are contesting the ticket and request a hearing. Don't take it lying down like most people do here, fight even though you were speeding. Hope the officer is sick or on vacation, the ticket will most likely be dismissed if he/she doesn't show up. I was busted about 6 years ago on the NJ Turnpike, going at 102 mph in a 65mph, sports cars are fast and it was begging my foot to press down for some more. I hired a lawyer and fought the ticket, the prosecutor agreed to merge all 2 tickets (reckless driving and speeding), it became speeding ticket at 20 mph above speed limit. In my defense, I thought the I-95 sign were speed requirements for me. I speed at 95..(I-95)
I don't even know how you managed that, considering that the average speed of traffic on the Belt is usually 24 mph UNDER the limit!
Almost 6 years ago...morning at 8am, wide-open Belt Pkwy by exit 15 going towards JFK in a 8V Mustang.
I was so asleep that I didn't even realize.
It is an issue as its been posted that some IOs have requested proof of payment of minor traffic tickets at oath. Also, simply paying the fine before oath without contesting it may result in higher insurance fees down the road.OP,
There is no conceivable way for USCIS to bust your nachos over this speeding ticket. I am surprise about the hoopla as it relates to this particular simple and straightforward case.
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There's no requirement that you have to have all minor traffic tickets paid before you take your oath, so showing IO that you have a planned court date should be sufficient.
Btw, paying the ticket means you are pleading guilty. You can't contest a traffic charge after you have paid the fine.
WhichWay2Go
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Bob, I hate to state the obvious here, but the whole point of fines and penalties (insurance, points etc) is as a deterrent to speeding again. Worked for me many years back. The OP has to decide if the points, insurance and fine is worth delaying the Oath. Pretty simple decision in my book. Pay the fine, go to the Oath, pay more attention to the speed limits in the future. Trite maybe, and it did take me quite a while to figure it out.
Speeding is easy to stop doing and it removes all heart-jumps when you see a cop car when you *know* you are not speeding. When you look at the actual small gain in time saved by speeding, it really does not make sense, but we were all young once. :O
Al Southner
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B,
I agree, he does't have to pay this fine at all or before his oath day.
Moreover, he doesn't need to disclose this speeding ticket at all, because the judge who's going to conduct this ceremony has a speeding ticket too, which he's NOT going to pay at all because he's a scofflaw. The OP should just take his chances, because 15 above the speed limit isn't bad at all, he wasn't speeding in a school zone or hospital area. You can contest the pleading of guilty in the speeding ticket or in any court. Most people aren't lawyers, so claiming ignorance of the law though not forgiveable, any judge can appreciate someone seeking his day in court. It happens all the time in courtrooms all over this country. This will be a good reading to all speeding people on this forum. Educate thyself!!!
http://www.cockeyed.com/lessons/court/traffic_court.html
My insurance rates never went up after I got the speeding ticket in 2003, and the cool part about this entire process is when I bought a house in a nice surburb not to long ago, they dropped my premium rates by a whole lot of money. My rates for 3 cars is about $450 for 6 months, full coverage with collision, etc. However, I haven't had a speeding ticket or red light camera ticket throughout this period. How do I do that? Good GPS with red light camera notification and a radar system. Check state law where you live for laws governing use of radar detectors...
https://www.escortradar.com/passport9500ix-details.php
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-NnTQw3...rt-Passport-9500ix.html?search=radar+detector
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You're making the assumption that not having proof of payment for a minor traffic ticket will result in a oath delay. Of all the cases I've seen, I've only come across one or two cases where an applicant was pulled aside at the oath for a minor traffic ticket. The majority of the time it's not even an issue. Simply paying the fine before the oath in the fears that doing otherwise would delay the oath can end up being an otherwise avoidable costly proposition in the long run (insurance hikes).
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WhichWay2Go
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Bob, I have not done a search, but I too recall reading several where the applicant was sent away from the Oath and forced to reschedule. The thing being it is not so much the average chance of rescheduling, it is what IF it happens to this individual.
This is just my opinion, but I would declare it before the Oath and pay it and suffer the pain. Do the crime, do the time. I think contesting a speeding ticket like this is a waste of more time. The cops usually show up for the case and the Judge usually goes along with the plan. There are almost no valid arguments to contest the Radar results these days.
In the County where I live, the cops have an average show up rate of better than 98%. Planning to contest the charge on a 2% hope the cop is not there and the case is dismissed is very frail indeed. Especially so, as the DA can ask for and get, at least one continuance.
The radar systems are so sophisticated that there is virtually no wiggle room to contest their validity. Modern radar can track 6 vehicles 3 coming, 3 going. It also actually measures and records the speed of the cop car and in 1/30th of a second you are caught. They are self calibrating and self checking.