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Proof of education (uk)

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damo24

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A quick question regarding proof of education- particularly for anyone familiar with the UK system.
Typically on results day we pick up a slip from school and a while later receive the certificate.
The slip says on it 'provisional results' and 'this is not a certificate' presumably as you can request papers to be remarked.
Just wondering if the initial slip would be accepted at interview, as the certificate has been lost over the years- if not I'll apply for a replacement.
Thanks all
 
You need a formal certificate of your A levels. Certainly anything saying “provisional” wouldn’t be acceptable.
 
Thanks Susie- I suspected as much but as with everything there is a fee for a duplicate so I thought I would check!
My wife is principal applicant- has her certificate for advanced gnvq but not her a-level so 2 out of 3!
 
did she get any a-levels as well? GNVQ won’t meet the education requirement, as far as I understand it - it’s not accepted for university entrance, or is it?

https://travel.state.gov/content/tr...iew/diversity-visa-prepare-for-interview.html

Education: Submit to the U.S. Embassy or Consulate at your interview, a certificate of completion equivalent to a U.S. diploma, school transcripts, or other evidence issued by the person or organization responsible for maintaining records, which specifies the completed course of study. The diversity visa selectee must have completed a 12-year course of elementary and secondary education in the U.S. or a comparable course of study in another country, sufficient in itself to qualify a student to apply for college admission. The following are not acceptable:

  • Equivalency certificates (such as the G.E.D.) are not acceptable.
  • Vocational degrees that are not considered a basis for further academic study will not be considered equivalent to U.S. high school education.
 
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She has 1 A-level and an distinction at advanced gnvq which is a level 3 qualification that UCAS considers equivalent to 2 A-levels grade A/B. She was admitted to university on that basis.
 
I'll have info like this printed off to bring along all the same
 

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I'll have info like this printed off to bring along all the same
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Yup, I definitely would bring those, given the specific caution against vocational qualifications. Of course she needed the extra stand-alone A level to get that university entrance, hopefully the CO will allow her to “combine” these as well for DV purposes and not be a stickler about the course undertaken being “sufficient in itself”. I presume she graduated uni?
 
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Yup, I definitely would bring those, given the specific caution against vocational qualifications.
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Yes thanks Susie I've just seen your edit regarding vocational degrees- in this case it is an alternative route in to college rather than an alternative to college.
This is from the ucas guide
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SusieQQQ said:
Yup, I definitely would bring those, given the specific caution against vocational qualifications. Of course she needed the extra stand-alone A level to get that university entrance, hopefully the CO will allow her to “combine” these as well for DV purposes and not be a stickler about the course undertaken being “sufficient in itself”. I presume she graduated uni?
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No she had to withdraw from uni before graduation, she has got the uni to print off a transcript detailing dates and classes taken etc also.
 
damo24 said:
No she had to withdraw from uni before graduation, she has got the uni to print off a transcript detailing dates and classes taken etc also.
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Ok, be aware that all that’s going to really show is that she got into university, if she doesn’t have a uni degree her high school leaving qualification is all that they can determine eligibility on.
 
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  • Vocational degrees that are not considered a basis for further academic study will not be considered equivalent to U.S. high school education.
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To provide some context the advanced gnvq was in health and social care and the uni course she was admitted to was nursing sciences so I don't think 'not considered a basis....' is applicable?
 
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Of course she needed the extra stand-alone A level to get that university entrance
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That was the presumption at the time but it turned out she was given an unconditional offer of a uni place based on the a-gnvq, so the a-level itself wasn't actually required for admittance
 
IMO, I feel the question you should be asking yourself is whether the GC is worth what it will cost to get a replacement diploma or not. I would rather spend the money to ensure I have a very tight case than spend al this time looking for answers that may narrowly fit my situation.

Just my opinion.
 
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That was the presumption at the time but it turned out she was given an unconditional offer of a uni place based on the a-gnvq, so the a-level itself wasn't actually required for admittance
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Would she have gotten admitted into a US university with just the same result alone?
 
I agree mom and will be 100% getting the replacement regardless- the conversation just went on a bit of a tangent!
 
damo24 said:
Valid question which I do not know the answer to- either way we will have as much detail as possible on hand
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It’s an exceptionally valid question because as the extract above I pasted showed, that’s the defining question for eligibility.

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I agree mom and will be 100% getting the replacement regardless- the conversation just went on a bit of a tangent!
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Did it? We’ve had people before who thought they qualified but didn’t, and in a number of instances that was around vocational qualifications. We’ve also had people (not London as far as i know, but of course it’s not a heavy DV workload) who haven’t been able to “combine” qualifications, and the embassy will surely know that 3 A levels is the usual requirement for uni entrance. Just getting into a university is not proof of meeting the DV requirement- some obvious examples are someone in the US using a GED which is specifically excluded as qualifying, or someone in the uk using an access to HE diploma. That was why I asked about whether she had graduated - if she had a uni degree it would have been much easier imo to argue that she meets the minimum requirement.

I’m not trying to worry you unduly but but as mom said - focus on a watertight case. I don’t think ensuring that counts as the conversation going off on a tangent, but YMMV.

Is her work experience sufficient to present as a backup for eligibility in case it’s needed?
 
SusieQQQ said:
I’m not trying to worry you unduly but but as mom said - focus on a watertight case. I don’t think ensuring that counts as the conversation going off on a tangent, but YMMV.
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Agreed and appreciated - poor choice of words on my part, no offense intended
 
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