"Alien" - Encyclopædia Britannica Article

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Following is cut and paste text from Britannica in regards to the origins of the word "Alien". And for those who are interested where I am from, you can PM me (and hopefully I see your message).

Good luck guys, this is my last post.


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In early times, the tendency was to look upon the alien as an enemy and to treat him as a criminal or outlaw. Aristotle, probably reflecting a common view in the ancient world, saw non-Greeks as barbarous people who were slaves “by nature.” The jus gentium of the Roman law applied to both citizens and foreigners and tended to favour the idea that aliens had rights; humanity toward aliens was also fostered, in theory at least, by the Christian idea of the unity of all persons in the church. The legal and ideological expression of humanity toward the alien, however, is generally a relatively modern development.
As sovereign national states began to develop in modern times, founders of international law asserted that natural rights were vested in all persons, without regard to citizenship or alienage—rights of which they ought not to be deprived by civilized societies or their governments. There was no general agreement on the content or scope of these natural rights as they affected aliens, but the existence of some minimum standard of civilized treatment was asserted. The minimum standard, it was conceded, did not include the right of the alien to own realty or to engage in gainful professions. To meet this situation, states entered into treaties that provided that each of the contracting states would treat the nationals of the other state on an equal footing with its own nationals in the admission into trades and professions, ownership or possession of property, access to courts, enjoyment of liberty of conscience, and freedom of worship. Some treaties do not purport to extend to aliens, however, rights that are by municipal law reserved exclusively to nationals of the country; thus, municipal law, rather than conventional international law, is actually controlling. In particular, the desire of nations to protect citizens in their jobs, professions, and businesses against both unemployment and competition is a very strong force restricting the latitude of aliens.
The common economic needs of nations, on the other hand, have had some liberalizing effects on the status of aliens. The treaty constituting the European Common Market, for instance, provides that citizens of member states shall be free to reside in any signatory country that offers them employment; wages and working conditions are to be the same for citizens and aliens. This treaty may in time serve as a model to raise the so-called minimum standards in the treatment of aliens.
Under U.S. federal law, beginning in 1940, all aliens have had to register. In 1965 a new law provided for phasing out by 1968 the immigration quota system based on national origins that had been in effect, with modifications, since 1921. U.S. immigration is now subject to a worldwide numerical ceiling and a system of preferences based on occupation and relationship to U.S. citizens.
Aliens who are admitted legally to the United States may be so certified and granted “green cards” that entitle them to rights that include employment. But they are still subject to limitations under local laws. The U.S. Supreme Court held, for example, that municipalities may require police officers to be U.S. citizens (1982); “Aliens are by definition those outside the community” of those under self-government.
The alien in the United States is afforded a large measure of economic opportunity; he may invoke the writ of habeas corpus; in criminal proceedings he is entitled to the guarantees of the Bill of Rights; and his property cannot be taken without just compensation. But to remain in the country “is not his right, but is a matter of permission and tolerance.” As long as the alien is in the United States, the Constitution is his protection; but Congress, not the Constitution, decides whether or not he is to remain."
 
Stop digging yourself further down into the craphole, for your own sake.

From the same article: (the beginning)
An alien ..." in national and international law, a foreign-born resident who is not a citizen by virtue of parentage or naturalization and who is still a citizen or subject of another country."

This is the meaning of the word 'Alien'. This is what we were debating about. Stop diverting the argument into how aliens have been treated throughout history. I don't care if Aristotle thought of all non-greek aliens as barbaric or whatever. An alien is a someone, referred to as such, in a country of which he is not a citizen. THIS IS WHAT WE ARE! Until you take that oath of allegiance, you are called an ALIEN, and rightly so.

Man is not perfect, there's always going to be some sort of discrimination against foreigners (aliens) when they travel to other countries, especially countries that are superior to their own (in terms of power and money that is). Stop trying to prove that, everybody is aware of it. The US government calling you Alien is not prejudice and it's not discrimination.

And that was so manly of you revealing your country of origin, only through PM. I bow to your courage. I'm from Lebanon. There I said it, so what? What's going to happen now? Who's going to come after me?
 
IC Man, why is this your last post?? :( You are supposed to be my forecast, remember?! Don't leave me!!! ;)

Guys, don't fight about stupid things like that. I'm not saying that words are just words, because that would lead to a whole new level of philosophy. ;) But putting this aside, this is a forum where people are supposed to help each other, not fight and make each other even more frustrated.
Try and be peaceful. Aggression has never helped anyone, but gives you high blood pressure, and in some cases diarrhea. :D
 
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