call social security?? after green card? EAD?

[cindywang16]

hi, everyone
I had received so much help from everyone in this forum thank you.

I read some people apply social security number after they received Greencard.
I am curious, what if I already have social security number before I file I-485? On my social security card it said "Not authorized to work without permission" so can I use my social security number to work after I receive my EAD? ( I know most of the employer will ask for it) Do I need to have any action after I receive my EAD?
or just happy happy and go job hunting


thank you so much

[TheRealCanadian]

Originally Posted by cindywang16

On my social security card it said "Not authorized to work without permission" so can I use my social security number to work after I receive my EAD?

Yes.

Do I need to have any action after I receive my EAD? or just happy happy and go job hunting

No, just find a job.

[cindywang16]

wow...thank you so much TheRealCanadian.
great, I can go job hunting now.
But I am wondering, will I receive a new social security card that doesn't say "not authorized to work" on it?
Just feeling kind of strange to go applying for a job and my social security card says that.

sorry...I think too much

[annie88]

I think you should apply for a new ss card. This is the advised I received from the officer at the SSA. It will have the same number but without "not authorized to work". Some employers will want to see it/ get a copy of it and you will not have the hassle of proving that you can work legally. Not every employer is savvy about the ins and outs of immigration laws. Just my two cents.

[NeShawn]

You just need to go back to Social Security office and get "not authorized to work without permission" removed from your card. Your card will have the same number. Your EAD verifies your right to work. So don't stress. Be blessed

[Jewel12]

Can you remove "Not authorized to work" with an EAD?? I thought you need a green card to do that...

[TheRealCanadian]

Originally Posted by Jewel12

Can you remove "Not authorized to work" with an EAD?? I thought you need a green card to do that...

You are correct.

[Bella Blues]

Originally Posted by Jewel12

Can you remove "Not authorized to work" with an EAD?? I thought you need a green card to do that...

Yes you can, EAD stands for Employment Authorization Document...it's more commonly known as the work permit. If you've got it, then it means you CAN go to work and can have the new SS card without a stamp on it.

[Pinturicchio]

Originally Posted by Bella Blues

Yes you can, EAD stands for Employment Authorization Document...it's more commonly known as the work permit. If you've got it, then it means you CAN go to work and can have the new SS card without a stamp on it.

No it doesn't. Please refrain from giving out false advice. I hate it when people do that. If you don't know about something, just feel free not to contribute

Having an EAD does not qualify one for a social security card that has no conditions on it. That is a privilege for permanent residents and citizens. Until then the OP has to make due with a SS card that says "Not Valid for Employment without DHS Authorization". The EAD is the DHS authorization.

[cindywang16]

hi,Everyone:
thank you for all the information.
So I guess I can just go job hunt for now?
and when I received my Green card I go back to SSA to get a new card?
I guess I can present my current SSC right now and it will be fine right? since I have EAD.

thank you very much everyone

[NeShawn]

that is correct. After you get green card you go back to Social Security office and they will send new card without authorization statement.

[NYC326]

That's correct.

You do not need to do anything after you received your EAD. The condition on your SSC means that you can't work with this SSC without your EAD.

The only thing you need to do is: Wait for your GC. Once you received your GC, you need to go to your local SS Dept. to remove this "Not authorized to work" condition.

Clear?

[cindywang16]

clear clear....thank you everyone.
Super clear.

ohoh....another thing again.
what if the state issued my SSN is different with the state I am applying my GC? which state I should go? or it doesn't matter?

sorry....I am a mess with all these law stuff

[NeShawn]

The number assigned to you stays with you for life. No one else gets that number. It doesn't matter what state.

UNLESS!!!

You are kept under the witness protection program by the government and given a entirely new identity

[eddie_d]

If you want to waste a day at the SS office to remove the "Needs Authorization", go ahead. But it's not needed. Your green card is your authorization. No matter if you are a GC or EAD, each time you begin a new job you'll hve to fill out an I-9. For that I-9 you have to show proof of eligibility which is going to be your green card or EAD. So with or without the condition written on your SS card you still hve to show the same documentation to start working.

[Pinturicchio]

Originally Posted by eddie_d

If you want to waste a day at the SS office to remove the "Needs Authorization", go ahead. But it's not needed. Your green card is your authorization. No matter if you are a GC or EAD, each time you begin a new job you'll hve to fill out an I-9. For that I-9 you have to show proof of eligibility which is going to be your green card or EAD. So with or without the condition written on your SS card you still hve to show the same documentation to start working.

Not really Mr.Eddie.

When you remove the restriction on your SS card, you get to apply for jobs with just the SS card and a driver license, just like a US citizen would do.

[cindywang16]

so...I am confused
When I apply a job, all I need is to show my EAD or Green Card? Don't need Social security card? or just like a US citizen just show ID?
or social security card just for reference? and normally they just verbally ask the number?

ok...so is there anyone know, if I get a job today. What document I should provide to my employer?

thank you so much everyone

[Jewel12]

Originally Posted by cindywang16

so...I am confused
When I apply a job, all I need is to show my EAD or Green Card? Don't need Social security card? or just like a US citizen just show ID?
or social security card just for reference? and normally they just verbally ask the number?

ok...so is there anyone know, if I get a job today. What document I should provide to my employer?

thank you so much everyone

You can use your DL or ID card ONLY if you SS card has no restrictions on it. If it does, you will need to provide your EAD card or your green card.

If you show something that verifies your identity AND employment eligibility, like an EAD, a green card, or a U.S. passport, you do not have to show your SS card to the employer - just tell them the number. I know that people prefer to show it anyways though.

And here's your I-9 instructions:

One document from this list will suffice for the entire I-9:

U.S. Passport (unexpired or expired)
Unexpired foreign passport, with I-551 stamp or attached INS Form I-94 indicating unexpired employment authorization
Permanent Resident Card or Alien Registration Receipt Card with photograph (INS Form I-551)
Unexpired Temporary Resident Card (INS Form I-688)
Unexpired Employment Authorization Card (INS Form I-688A)
Unexpired Employment Authorization Document issued by the INS which contains a photograph (INS Form I-688B)


OR one document from EACH column below:

1) Driver’s license or ID card issued by a state or outlying possession of the United States provided it contains a photograph or information such as name, date of birth, gender, height, eye color and address
ID card issued by federal, state or local government agencies or entities, provided it contains a photograph or information such as name, date of birth, gender, height, eye color and address
School ID card with a photograph
Voter’s registration card
U.S. Military card or draft record
Military dependent’s ID card
U.S. Coast Guard Merchant Mariner Card
Native American tribal document
Driver’s license issued by a Canadian government authority
For persons under age 18 who are unable to present a document in the above column:
School record or report card
Clinic, doctor or hospital record
Day-care or nursery school record


2) U.S. social security card issued by the Social Security Administration (other than a card stating that it is not valid for employment)
Certification of Birth Abroad issued by the Department of State (Form FS-545 or Form DS-1350)
Original or certified copy of a birth certificate issued by a state, county, municipal authority or outlying possession of the United States bearing an official seal
Native American tribal document
U.S. Citizen ID Card (INS Form I-197)
ID Card for use of Resident Citizen in the United States (INS Form I-179)
Unexpired employment authorization document issued by the INS (other than those listed at the top of the page.)

Hope this helps

[cindywang16]

wow...thank you so much.
That is a lot of details.
Thank you, I get it.
Go job hunt. ^_^

[Bella Blues]

Originally Posted by Pinturicchio

No it doesn't. Please refrain from giving out false advice. I hate it when people do that. If you don't know about something, just feel free not to contribute

Having an EAD does not qualify one for a social security card that has no conditions on it. That is a privilege for permanent residents and citizens. Until then the OP has to make due with a SS card that says "Not Valid for Employment without DHS Authorization". The EAD is the DHS authorization.

Yes, you're right, I completely forgot about the "transitional" Social Security card. There's the card that says one can't work, there's a card that's completely clean for US citizens, and there's that card that I forgot about: the one that says Not Valid for Employment without Authorization...thank you for clearing that up and reminding me, I have seen these cards before! They slipped my mind! I haven't seen them in a long time.

[kevinglenn]

Originally Posted by eddie_d

So with or without the condition written on your SS card you still hve to show the same documentation to start working.

Not really...without the restrictions, all u need is a driver's License(or state ID) in addition to the unrestricted social security card.

[cindywang16]

hi, Everyone
Thank you for all the information.
I actually found a super part time job, and all I need was the social. Strange right? They checked my driver's license and ask for the social that is it.
(haven't quite started yet, because I haven't received the actual EAD card yet)

I am bring another thread's question to here, to see if anyone here have any information about it.
I will be working as a part time employee, of course, wont' have any benefit or anything and the pay is super super little. But I found out besides the tax, we have to pay social security and medicare as well. It will take up more than 10% of the total paycheck.
Is that sounds right to everybody? We won't get it back like tax at the end of the tax year right?

[TheRealCanadian]

Originally Posted by cindywang16

But I found out besides the tax, we have to pay social security and medicare as well. It will take up more than 10% of the total paycheck.

That's correct.

Is that sounds right to everybody? We won't get it back like tax at the end of the tax year right?

Why would you expect to "get it back" - SS and Medicare are a flat tax (with no exemptions/deductions) on your first $95k or so of employment income. You will, however, start accumulating quarters of contribution. Once you hit 40 quarters you become eligible for SS & Medicare when you retire.

[cindywang16]

wow....thank you so much Therealcanadian.
It solved all my questions.
I am glade I asked and didnt' try to get it back.
The reason why I so curious about this, is because this is huge amount and I didnt' even know if I am qualified for benefit later on. If now, I know I will be qualified, feels better to pay for it now. hehehe...thank you so much.

sorry, question again ....so since there is a job waiting for me, and I already get EAD e-mail notice, can I start working there now before I receive my actually EAD card?


thank you thank you