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Life After The Green Card How soon can you leave your employer. All other issues after the green card.

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Old 3rd December 2005, 07:46 AM
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Where can he make a report?

Hello!

A US resident has a permanent US Green Card. He immigrated into USA in 1994. But as soon as he arrived in USA he returned to his home country with his US Green Card which he got there by postal mail. He lived and worked in his home country until 1999. He never made a tax file in the US while he stayed in his home country. In 1999 he moved to USA. He was lucky that he just needed to show his Green card at the PoE and he was not questioned at all. He is living in California since 1999. He has a very good job in the IT industry and he has all the skills that America needs for its IT market. He has also bought three homes since he moved to California (San Fracisco/Los Angelas) in 1999.

1.) Can he be called an illegal alien?
2.) To which adress can someone send a letter when a person wants to report his case to US officials? (postal adress needed)
3.) It is possible that this US resident marries a girl soon. When someone reports his case to US officials before he gets married to a US citizen, will he then be deportated immediately? Everything can be proven easily that he used to live and work in his home country for several years and that he never filed his tax files in the US and that he was out of USA for several years without having a US re-entry permit.
4.) When he marries a US citizen and then someone reports his case to US officials, would he still be deportable?
5.) How fast can he be deportated from USA a.) in case he is not married to a US citizen b.) in case he is already married to a US citizen?

When he is deportated, would he be banned from re-entering USA for a certain amount of time? For how long exactly?

He can afford a very expensive lawyer. But the proofs speak a clear language and the proofs are against him. Would a lawyer be helpful or just a waste of money in his case?

Someone else in a similar situation has already gotten his US citizenship. Would he lose his US citizenship?

Both persons have never ever been a burden for USA, that means they have never ever taken benefits from the US social security.
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Old 3rd December 2005, 10:57 AM
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Old 3rd December 2005, 11:08 AM
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why in the world?!!

why would you report such a person? he is living legally and paying his taxes. I guess you are only jeallous or have personal issues with this guy and by the way you can do nothing for him and he qualifies for citizenship now, so live and let live!!

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Old 3rd December 2005, 04:41 PM
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1.) Can he be called an illegal alien?
Yes, he can be called illegal alien provided USCIS determines (after reviewing all the facts) that he abandoned his LPR status on 1994.


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2.) To which adress can someone send a letter when a person wants to report his case to US officials? (postal adress needed)
What would you report? Do you know all the facts? Just because he was absent in USA for long time and did not file taxes, that does not mean he abandoned his GC for sure. There can be other factors too. Only USCIS/ICE/CBP can determine and make decision who is legal and who is illegal, not you and me.
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Old 4th December 2005, 10:41 AM
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Well, what I have written are facts and from these facts the conclusion has to be drawn that when he entered USA with his Green Card he should have told the Immigration Officer at the PoE that he stayed out of USA for more than a year without having a re-entry visa and that he worked in his home country and never filed his tax file in USA. If he would have told this to the IO at the PoE he then would be rejected to enter USA with his Green Card.

I don't know why you guys don't just answer to the questions I have raised here in my thread.
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Old 4th December 2005, 02:46 PM
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forget him and live happilly
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Old 4th December 2005, 07:35 PM
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there is a 5 year limit for these cases. after 5 years have passed then its hard to get a case against him.

i dont think he did any fraud - in which case his green card can be taken away.

but search in this forum for this 5 year period by which you have to ahve a case against.
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Old 7th December 2005, 03:57 PM
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Hello!

I know this guy and I know for sure that he never filed tax files in USA while he was in his home country for several years. He had his US Green Card and worked in his home country for several years.

To my mind it is ridiculous that most of the questions in this forum is how to avoid losing the vailidity of the Green Card when someone makes a trip abroad, but at the same time to defend the guy I am talking about, namely the guy who stayed out of USA for several years, who worked in his home country and never filed US tax files during that time.

****, you are a person who always preaches that if someone has stayed out of the country for more than one year that he would lose his Green Card even several years after here-entered USA. So why didn't you just write that this guy is illegal and that he would be deported immediately if US authorities knows about that.
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Old 7th December 2005, 04:55 PM
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To my mind it is ridiculous that most of the questions in this forum is how to avoid losing the vailidity of the Green Card when someone makes a trip abroad, but at the same time to defend the guy I am talking about, namely the guy who stayed out of USA for several years, who worked in his home country and never filed US tax files during that time.
Here nobody is defending this person and nobody (except you) is accusing him either. You are are the only person who is accusing him. Just contradicting your argument does not mean we are defending this guy. Probably he illegal and probably he is not. As I said before, you or I am not the person to determine that. Is it too hard to understand?


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So why didn't you just write that this guy is illegal and that he would be deported immediately if US authorities knows about that.
Because he does not know all the facts. Filing tax and not living in USA - these two facts are not the only facts to determine LPR/illegal status in all the cases.

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Old 8th December 2005, 03:27 PM
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Hello ****:

Then just accept that what I have written about this guy are facts. Namely that he stayed out of USA for several years, that he has worked broad and that he has never filed tax files in USA and that he never had a re-entry visa.

IN THIS CASE: Is he illegally in the USA now? If the IO at the PoE would have noticed the facts which I have written above this guy wouldn't have been allowed to enter USA and his Green Card would have been revoked.
As he was lucky that he wasn't questioned he could enter USA and live and work in USA in the past six years. From the postings which you have written in the past months and years, ****, I have gotten to know that such a person is illegal no matter how much time has been passed. His parents have gotten the US citizenship even though they entered USA with their Green Card which would have been revoked if the IO at the PoE would have known that they were abroad for more than a year without having a re-entry visa.

To my mind, US immigration laws would become ridiculous if such persons could stay in USA after US authorities get to know their past.
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Old 8th December 2005, 03:59 PM
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Here is one fact....
Unless a person commits a felony, no law enfocement officer is going to actively pursue a case about any illegal immigrant.
Every law enfocement department is so overworked that they won't pay any attention to this person. This person did not enter the country illegally, not lie at POE.
Being out of a country for more than one year without a re-entry permit is not automatic revocation of your green card. That can be used as a proof that the person abandoned his/her permanent residence and then an immigration judge will deport that person.

Assume a case where a person enters a country illegally...and gets married to a US Citizen, and applies for a Green Card, as long as the marriage is legal, that person will not be deported.
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Old 8th December 2005, 04:42 PM
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he is here for last six years that indicate he has not abandon his permanent residency.

he bought 3 homes that itself indicate he has not abondone it.

looks like he is very successfull IT Professional.
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Old 13th December 2005, 05:40 PM
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****:

His parents lied to the US judge and to other US authorities when they applied for the US citizenship.

Couldn't they be deportated now because more than five years have been passed since they commited this fraud?
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Old 13th December 2005, 06:32 PM
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Lying to a US Judge or Government official could land you in prison. Follow the case of Martha Steward.

I have not gone through the process of applying of citizenship yet, but I don't think you would see a US Judge for normal US Citizenship application.

In this country you have the right to remain silent (right against self-incrimination ). If you choose to keep quite (do not volunteer information that will hurt yourself) then you have not lied to the government official.
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Old 3rd February 2006, 02:52 PM
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****,

It is very funny how on the one hand you condemn immigrants who stay out of USA for more than a year and nevertheless want to keep their Green Card, that means, you disapprove Green Card holders who want to live abroad but still want to keep their Green card and who want toi know how they can re-enter USA in a way that US officials do not notice that they have lived and worked abroad for more than a year without a re-entry permission. On the other hand you are trying to back the highly criminal family about who I have reported here in this thread by claiming that I would not have any evidence for my claims.

To make it short:

I have strong evidence that the family entered USA with their Green Card even though the family lived and worked abroad for several years and the family never had a Green Card. The family even received US citizenship based the family lied to US officials by claiming that the family would have lived in USA since it immigrated into USA, thus, since it got the Green Card.

Now the family is living in the USA for more than five years.

My question is whether the family could be deportated. Simple question, yes or no, ****!

If there is a five-year-rule, then I think that American laws are not fair.
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Old 3rd February 2006, 06:45 PM
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Hello!

1.) Can he be called an illegal alien?
looks like you are not jealous of his merit but have affairs with him, forgive me if i were wrong.

Even the officier found out at POE, it's his descretion to allow or not allow him to come in.

So i don't think there is problem. I wish this guy a happy life in america. some time even ppl breaks the law, if he/she was not spotted, i wish him/her can escape from it in his/her life. I would not report them if they live next to my door, unless they have security threat to this country.

imagine, i park on a 2 hrs parking but not move my car, it's up to the patrol to ticket me or not, if they don't ticket me, i won't feel guilty.
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Old 5th February 2006, 10:13 PM
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Are you the "HIM"?

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Hello!

A US resident has a permanent US Green Card. He immigrated into USA in 1994. But as soon as he arrived in USA he returned to his home country with his US Green Card which he got there by postal mail. He lived and worked in his home country until 1999. He never made a tax file in the US while he stayed in his home country. In 1999 he moved to USA. He was lucky that he just needed to show his Green card at the PoE and he was not questioned at all. He is living in California since 1999. He has a very good job in the IT industry and he has all the skills that America needs for its IT market. He has also bought three homes since he moved to California (San Fracisco/Los Angelas) in 1999.

1.) Can he be called an illegal alien?
2.) To which adress can someone send a letter when a person wants to report his case to US officials? (postal adress needed)
3.) It is possible that this US resident marries a girl soon. When someone reports his case to US officials before he gets married to a US citizen, will he then be deportated immediately? Everything can be proven easily that he used to live and work in his home country for several years and that he never filed his tax files in the US and that he was out of USA for several years without having a US re-entry permit.
4.) When he marries a US citizen and then someone reports his case to US officials, would he still be deportable?
5.) How fast can he be deportated from USA a.) in case he is not married to a US citizen b.) in case he is already married to a US citizen?

When he is deportated, would he be banned from re-entering USA for a certain amount of time? For how long exactly?

He can afford a very expensive lawyer. But the proofs speak a clear language and the proofs are against him. Would a lawyer be helpful or just a waste of money in his case?

Someone else in a similar situation has already gotten his US citizenship. Would he lose his US citizenship?

Both persons have never ever been a burden for USA, that means they have never ever taken benefits from the US social security.


It is obvious that the "HIM" is you. You are just scared to ask the question, thinking that USCIS will somehow tract this post back to you and deport you.

It looks like that you will be all right. So now maybe you can sign in under another name and ask the question as if the "HIM" is asking questions.
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Old 16th February 2006, 05:46 PM
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My question is whether the family could be deportated. Simple question, yes or no,
simple answer is: he is deportable if USCIS get eyes on him.

The 5-year Statute of Limitations(SOL) does not work on this situation because USCIS has no notice that he has run afoul with the law and the person cannot take advantage of POE officer's mistake (actually, USCIS can kick away the SOL for numerous reasons).

I remember a case which bears the same fact pattern with the story you told. That guy was from mideast and after getting GC, he stayed in his home country for several years or some. Later he was caught in US and was deported eventually.
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