I am no Terrorist, any advice?

**hecate** · 20th July 2010, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by therouk

Good news guys, I have a friend who has been on hold for 11 years he just got his Welcome letter last week. I think the average pending application take around 10 years, well I have been on hold almost 6 years so I have 4 or 5 years to go lol.

I don't think that is how it works, if you go through previous threads some of 212 a 3 b on hold got their Green cards approved, and few of them filed in 2006 and in 2007.
I hope you take it as a good news.

The.Walker · 20th July 2010, 09:24 PM

Hecate, he meant it as a joke.

Does anybody have an email address for me to write into? I wish to know whether I will be affected by my dad's hold. ( I applied for my GC about 3 months ago, had my bio done 6 weeks ago ). My case was filed at NSC. Should I email the nsc...lawsuit one or..?

**HBA** · 20th July 2010, 11:44 PM

I got the email yesterday. I was told that she has been one of the leading experts on the issue of inadmissibility due to material support of a Tier III terrorist organization. If any body wants to email her here is her email melanie.nezer@hias.org. She is really good getting back. I am sure she will answer any question you have. It will be good idea to ask her if this information is available to the public.
If you Google her name you can get a lot more information about her. She is Senior Director, US Policy and Advocacy HIAS
I will encourage every body to contact her! Please share any information you will get.

Good luck

**locker9** · 21st July 2010, 12:50 AM

THANKS HBA, This should get me high for few days...

**USA5** · 21st July 2010, 11:04 AM

Thank you, HBA. This is really good news and encouraging.

Originally Posted by HBA

I got the email yesterday. I was told that she has been one of the leading experts on the issue of inadmissibility due to material support of a Tier III terrorist organization. If any body wants to email her here is her email melanie.nezer@hias.org. She is really good getting back. I am sure she will answer any question you have. It will be good idea to ask her if this information is available to the public.
If you Google her name you can get a lot more information about her. She is Senior Director, US Policy and Advocacy HIAS
I will encourage every body to contact her! Please share any information you will get.

Good luck

**HBA** · 21st July 2010, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by therouk

HBA,
would you please post the email you got from the leading experts on the issue of inadmissibility we will appreciate that. Thanks

Hi Therouk,
That was the email I got the only change I made is I took out my personal information.

**cortaidus** · 21st July 2010, 11:35 PM

Hope57, did you hear anything from the office you contacted?

**Hope57** · 22nd July 2010, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by cortaidus

Hope57, did you hear anything from the office you contacted?

No i'm still waiting, as soon as i get an answer i will let you know, are you filing the WOM? Did you email the service center? make sure your wife does that not you.

**pending_99** · 23rd July 2010, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by Hope57

No i'm still waiting, as soon as i get an answer i will let you know, are you filing the WOM? Did you email the service center? make sure your wife does that not you.

I did apply and recived the same "on HOLD for 212 blah blah blah..", but I think every one should fill the form and send it to them the link is below(can some one post it please). There is no fees for it. This office is created as an audit for the perfomance of USCIS and report to congress and make recommedation for proesses. If they get 100 application for the same proplem, I think this may let them make an effort to solve it.

google 'Ombudsman'

**therouk** · 23rd July 2010, 01:40 PM

Can anyone validate what HBA said about all the cases will be cleared by 2011 or emailed that lady.

**locker9** · 23rd July 2010, 01:43 PM

I emailed her yesterday. I will let you guys know as soon as i get an email from her.

**Hope57** · 23rd July 2010, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by pending_99

I did apply and recived the same "on HOLD for 212 blah blah blah..", but I think every one should fill the form and send it to them the link is below(can some one post it please). There is no fees for it. This office is created as an audit for the perfomance of USCIS and report to congress and make recommedation for proesses. If they get 100 application for the same proplem, I think this may let them make an effort to solve it.

google 'Ombudsman'

How long did they take to respond to your case?

**justnjust** · 23rd July 2010, 08:05 PM

Today I recieved an optimistic Email from Mr Ragland the DC lawyer stating the the deputy of asylum office has told him the Democratic Unionist party of Sudan(DUP) has been cleared.He further stated the DUP cases will be released for adjudication without any time specified.He is expecting some increased activity to DUP cases (didnot mention any other party) in the coming weeks.I hope this will come true and we will see some green cards for all been in this forum. This was a result of specific inquiry from the lawyer about certain DUP cases. I am not openly optimistic but I am casiuosly optimist.

**totallylost** · 23rd July 2010, 08:29 PM

what about the SPLA/M
do you have any idea

**pending_99** · 24th July 2010, 12:34 AM

Originally Posted by Hope57

How long did they take to respond to your case?

It took about a month.

**therouk** · 26th July 2010, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by Hope57

How long did they take to respond to your case?

Locker9 did you hear anything from that lady yet?

**therouk** · 26th July 2010, 06:08 PM

Any news guys, any update from any offical people?

The.Walker · 26th July 2010, 06:15 PM

Not really an update or anything but after talking to an attorney, I'm not DAMN convinced that filing for WOM is the ONLY way to go.

Here's how it works.

Asylum office and USCIS are two different governing bodies under the DHS. My dad received his asylum through the office and they know that his connection with the political party didn't have anything to do with terrorism, material support etc. Hence, they gave him political asylum, including thousands of others.

On the other hand, the USCIS put his case on hold in a ridiculous manner. What's more, even they know that the political party that he belongs to has absolutely no connection with terrorism. Further, they know that their hold is a ridiculous act but they're not gonna do anything until the whole party gets cleared from the list.

So what do you do? Sue their asses by filing for WOM. It has worked effectively for others and we're gonna do the same. If you wait, you need to wait as long as the entire party gets cleared off, of the list.

**Hope57** · 26th July 2010, 06:26 PM

i still wonder why my name got on that list if i have never been involved in any politics, i dont belong to any party.

The.Walker · 26th July 2010, 06:28 PM

Also, not sure if everyone's aware but someone shared some info on WoMs that turned out to be correct.

When you file for WOMs, it costs at least about 10-30 thousand dollars to the USCIS/DHS ( because their lawyers are highly qualified who make a bucketload of money ). More often than not, they just approve the GC application right away to save themselves from the hassle. However, if they were to fight the case and lose, they need to pay your lawyer too.

So it all comes down to an individual. If you know that your case has been wrongfully put on hold, there are only two ways :

1. File for WOM.
2. Remain patient. It could take 2 years, 3 or even next 7-15 years before you receive your approval.

I suppose I've already clarified what I'm gonna do.

**therouk** · 26th July 2010, 07:09 PM

The Walker
I think, by filing WOM the UCSIS interview you and if you pass you get ur GC otherwise, they will recommend you to withdraw your case, but most likely they will tell you to withdraw your case as they did to many people who filed WOM.

**locker9** · 26th July 2010, 08:04 PM

no she didn't reply me back.. walker what are you going to do if you get a call from USCIS one day and they tell your they're going to deny you if you continue with the case? what will you tell them?

**locker9** · 26th July 2010, 08:43 PM

"If you wait, you need to wait as long as the entire party gets cleared off, of the list."
walker, i've been following your posts for a long time. in your previous posts you have said that you know some people who belonged to the same party as you dad did and got approved after the hold. are you trying to say now that all of them got approved because their WOM was successful? if not, your statements are contradicting, sorry.

The.Walker · 26th July 2010, 11:26 PM

What's contradictory? :S

Not everyone's applied for WOM and hence, not everyone's gotten approved. As a matter of fact, I found out that at 500-1000 people from the same party are now placed on hold. I now know 3 people from the same party who've filed for WOM and they had their GCs approved.

Therouk, like I aforementioned, it depends on an individual and the political party. The political party that I was talking about is the biggest in the history of the country. They should've NEVER been placed/categorized as a terrorist organization. So, the chances of filing for getting the GCs denied are very minimal. It might be different in your case because of your country and your own situation.

**assylum** · 27th July 2010, 03:12 AM

Walker,
USCIS might launch a new policy soon. They are in the process of reviewing the indadmissibility issues. Check out this link

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/usc...00082ca60aRCRD

**pending_99** · 27th July 2010, 12:26 PM

[QUOTE=assylum;2210871]Walker,
USCIS might launch a new policy soon. They are in the process of reviewing the indadmissibility issues. Check out this link

Assylum,
I don't think this applied to the INA 212 a 3 b. One of the requirment of this I-601 (Application for Waiver of Ground of Inadmissibility) is you are not Inadmissable under INA 212 a 3 b.

**locker9** · 27th July 2010, 01:32 PM

Salem_all wrote on 9th july,10:

Let's be Specific and Clear!
The.Walker, I would like you to give us the conditions that you are stating that some people were able to adjudicate their cases using WOM based on the 212(a)(3)(B) inadmissibility. We need you to submit to us the court proceeding and ruling, as it is a public record. You can hide the names of the individual(s), if the person(s) doesn't/don't want to make his/her/their identity(-ies) public. I have seen a lot of cases when the WOM worked on I-485 adjustment cases but only when the adjustment is based on marriage to a US citizen , employment based adjustments, or other type of adjustment cases; but, I haven't encountered one with the hold based on 212(a)(3)(B) nonsense. So. please give us a real scenario where WOM worked with the hold cases! In that case, people can use that precedent to argue for their WOM. That will help a great deal. But, without that precedent it will be a waste of time and money. That is my personal opinion. Everyone is free to file for WOM if she/he wants to.

The.Walker · 27th July 2010, 03:40 PM

Locker9,
I'm perplexed with you labeling my stance as contradictory. It's been a while since I've established a stance on filing for WOM or remaining patient are the only ways to go. I didn't give a crap because I didn't like the tone of Selam_all. His posts have always been negative. He's being too rationale. At first, he kept saying how he's never come across anybody filing for WOM except the cases pertaining to Marriage or Employment based adjustments. That's not the case at all. There have been several cases ( as I found out this week ) of people filing for WOMs. Several people on this forum have contacted the DC Lawyer, a fellow Forum member has already shared a link of a successful WOM while I met a lawyer who successfully won the WOM to a fellow compatriot ( who ended up receiving the GC ).

Like I aforementioned, it depends on each individual. Just because You, I or Mr. XYZ thinks that he's wrongfully put on hold doesn't mean a whole lot. If you're dead sure that you aren't even affiliated with a political party and you're indeed placed on hold wrongfully then you SHOULD be filing for WOM, if you need your GC or get your I-730s approved. There are plenty of people who've been placed on hold that are happy to wait out because they've already seen their family members' asylee family petitions get approved. So there's no desperation, no hurry. Its been 6 years since I saw my mom and my brother. Almost 4 years since my dad filed for my mom and brother. He was a member of the largest political party in the country's history, the same party that restored democracy on a number of occasions. It isn't even remotely connected to terrorism. So that's my personal case. My personal scenario. If that weren't the case, I'd just be keeping my mouth shut and play the waiting game.

Also, I've already shared a number of stories. A young leader of the youth league of the same party has not only been approved of the asylum but also he's also been granted a GC. How insanely ridiculous. Further, there's a lady who received her GC in 28 days ( from the filing date ) without even getting her biometrics done! There's no consistency. No logic.

Again, it depends on individuals. If you REALLY think that you've been wrongfully placed on hold then you have two options. 1. Remain silent and wait for your approval ( could be a month, year, or several years ), 2. File for WOM.

And before I forget, I asked the lawyer if she could hand me the court proceeding and orders, she was like flat out "NO" citing the guy's privacy. If you live in Bay Area, I'll be more than happy to give you the name of the lawyer(s) who've taken these cases. More people from my country are filing for WOMs.

Hopefully, we will receive our approvals before we file for it but the probabilities are next to 0.

**locker9** · 27th July 2010, 04:26 PM

don't be preplexed man, i wasn't sure if the examples of the people you provided were the approvals because of wom or waiting, so i wanted to make it clear. I'm also a victim and haven't seen my wife for last 3 years. thanks for the valuable inputs..