Generating Socio-Political Awarenes through paid Media Advertisements

[WaldenPond]

I would be glad to contribute $200. For this effort to deliver any fruit, we must somehow motivate more members of this forum to join in. Somebody has to take the lead with this effort. I have seen few members suggesting Mr. Khanna's office to take the lead on this but did not see it reach any conclusion. Is there a way for Law offices of Rajiv Khanna to respond to this and be involved with this specific task agressively in some way. We guys don't have much time left with HR 4241.

WaldenPond

[WaldenPond]

Yahoo group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/techworkers/ is temporarily not accessible. Here is info from isnamerica.org about this issue

"Our Yahoo Group Techworkers is experiencing access problems, We will let Members know once the problem is fixed."

Hopefully will be accssible soon.

WaldenPond

[techy2468]

somehow i think.....we all deserve what we are getting......i just saw the number of people who have participated in this poll.........62 .................wow........maybe not many people know about this forum.....or maybe we are just big suckers.....will suck anyone....since we assume thats our fate.....and we are grateful...that we got a chance to suck....so that we can have some luxury to show to our family/friends......sorry for loosing my temper.....but its pathetic...that there are supposed to be 100k people affected by this....and only 62 support some action....

[sunjoshi]

Yes I am kinda dissapointed with the response too. But oh well, we'll work with what we got.

Has there been discussion about when/what outlet to put the ad? It seems sooner the better. Waiting on getting 100k or near abouts is prolly not practical. Lets do what we can, hope for the best

[Shil1]

Guys,

It's now "techworkers1" http://groups.yahoo.com/group/techworkers1/


Shilvant

[pdakwala]

Since Arlen Spector was the one who brought this bill back on track after Senator Byrd introduce his amendment. We should get in touch with him again and in fact immediately. His contact information is as follows:

Arlen Specter (R-PA)
Phone: 202-224-4254
Fax: 12022281229
Email: http://specter.senate.gov/index.cfm...ontactInfo.Home

Let's do following things tomorrow.

1. Flood his office with the phone calls and request him to make sure that section 8001 and 8002 of s1932 is included in the final version of the bill.
2. If we have someone from PA (Arlen's state), have him or her to get in touch with his office asap and raise our concern.

Everyone, Game is still not over. We can bring things back on track. Just effort is needed.

[jolpot]

SANDEEP

I noticed that ISNAMERICA is down and there is no way of getting to SensenBrenner and Lamar Smith...

Any ideas what to do next?

Also, I hope these people understand that when we say section 8001, we are actually wanting to include the SENATE VERSION which was stripped by HOUSE. OR ELSE we are in deep trouble...

[sk_bayarea]

** Lobbying Efforts ** IsnAmerica.Org is doing some good stuff regarding Lobbying

Pls check this @

http://www.nripost.com/forums/showth...=1359#post1359

[gcby2020]

I had responded to the article by a journalist on bloomberg.com. Here it is:


XXXXXXXXX wrote:
Dear Mr. Ferguson,

I read with interest your article on immigration
reform posted on bloomberg.com. I am a physician
scientist from India, in USA since 1995 patiently
waiting for the "green card" since last five years.
Thanks to totally dysfunctional Department of Labor I
am stuck at the first step of the green card process
for past five years. The way things are going, I may
not get my green card for another five years. That
means I cannot change my current job for a total of
ten years. And I am not alone. There are six million
legal immigrants (scientists, nurses, doctors,
computer programmers) in a similar situation. We have
become the collateral damage in the battle for
legalising illegal immigrants. Our careers have been
destroyed in so called land of opportunities. Our only
hope is if progressive writers like you publicise the
pathetic plight of legal immigrants. Otherwise we will
have no choice but to leave this country and try our
luck somewhere else.

XXXXXXXXX, MD

Mr Ferguson responded back promptly. Here is the response from him.

Dear Dr:

Thank you very much for your thoughtful and disturbing letter. I do hope to write more about the immigration issue in the future, and perhaps you would be willing to tell me more of your story when I do. I want to be fair to all sides in this complicated matter.

Thanks again for writing.

Andy Ferguson

[seahawks]

One of the articles I read in Seattle times pretty says it all. If any of you are talking to senators, congressmen or anyone who is interested to know some of the issues non-immigrants face, you should point them to this article. It really is painful, not only are we affecting our lives trying to make our dreams come true in the land of opportunities, the failed immigration system affects our loved ones from spouse, to kids and a whole generation waiting for an opportunity to the ironically land of opportunity.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...acklog25m.html

[vingivi]

Guys,

Come and join immigration voice at immigrationvoice.org an organization solely for the issues & concerns of the Employment based green card process.

This organization is 4 days old and started by the people on S.1932 thread of this forum.

The following the is the agenda of the orgaization

In first quarter of 2006 US Congress will consider comprehensive immigration reform bill. We want the following to be included in the bill to alleviate the long wait for the green card.

• Filing I-485 even if priority date is not current. Doing so would entitle us for an EAD that would give us flexibility for job opportunities.
• Increasing the annual Employment based Green Card quota.
• Eliminating/Reducing retrogression by recapturing unused visas and removing dependents from numerical visa limits.
• Labor department to enhance the processing capabilities of the Backlog Center


In the past we have seen that due to lack of professional representation, employment based immigration issues have been ignored by the lawmakers. The latest Example has been dropping of section 8001 & 8002 from the Budget Reconciliation Bill passed by the congress in December 2005. These events have made us realize that we need to hire a professional strategist firm who can analyze the issue in various dimensions and accordingly advise and help us formulate our strategies towards achievement of our above mentioned goal. The hired strategy firm will also be responsible for providing us a structured platform were we can put forth our concerns to the lawmakers and convince them to include clauses addressing our issues favorably. The said strategy firm can qualify and help us align with pertinent Support groups and forums that would strengthen our voice and raise the cause to the lawmakers. We have very less time to collaborate our efforts in a structured format that can lead us to putting our voice up, as the Reform’s decision is due in February 2006 itself. We need funds to hire the professional strategist firm. We also need your contribution in terms of your ideas and efforts by registering you as a Volunteer. Funds and their utilization would be transparent in this process althrough. All the volunteers will be provided a weekly update on the funds collected and their utilization


Register at immigrationvoice.org

or email at info@immigrationvoice.org

[logiclife]

There is an analysis on the upcoming immigration bill in washingtonpost.com on the frontpage of online version of the paper. In BOLD.


The article majorly deals with the politics of the immigration bill coming in Feb 2006 on both side of the aisle and people's opinion in general.

There is no mention of legal immigration. None. Nothing. NADA. ZIP.

Its all about illegal immigrants(mostly mexicans who jumped the fence on the southern border). And guess what?? Majority of America is against illegal immigration. And my fear is that the winds blowing against illegal kind of immigration will sweep us all in the same bundle and punish the LEGAL kind of immigration. Kind of like GUILT by association.

Here is a quote from washingtonpost.com(Most read inside Washington DC)

The Post-ABC News poll found that four in five Americans think the government is not doing enough to prevent illegal immigration, with three in five saying they strongly hold that view.

The same poll found that 56 percent of Americans believe that illegal immigrants have done more to hurt the country than to help it, with 37 percent saying they help the country. About three in five Republicans and a bare majority of Democrats agreed that illegal immigrants are detrimental to the country.

See the whole thing here : http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...010201376.html

My regtrogression brothers and sisters.....IF WE WANT TO END RETROGRESSION and end the H1B blackout WE HAVE GOT TO SEPARATE OURSELVES FROM THE ILLEGAL KIND and point out the congress and the general populace that there is another kind of immigration which is called ***TADA*** LEGAL IMMIGRATION. Its involves a process of granting permenant residence and citizenship to folks who are

1) Present Legally.
2) Entered LEgally.
3) Work legally.
4) Pay their income taxes.
5) Pay their social security and medicare taxes even when there is no guarantee of the benefits of either until they actually become citizens.
6) Play by the rules, file petitions for work permits and for permenant residency.

Our goal is not the hurt or help the cause of illegals but to make sure that we dont get punished due to wrath against them. After all, we played by the rules and we wait in line by the rules. We dont need amnesty. We need fair deal.

I once again urge you all to channel your energy to immigrationvoice.org This is a non-profit established with goal of ending retrogression using the next immigration bill as a vehicle. Its folks like you and me Losing sleep over retrogression. People like us wondering "What wrong did I do to deserve another 5-6 years of H1B extensions". I am not asking you to put money upfront. It does not cost anything to enroll or join or volunteer. But pooling ideas is invaluable. Stop sulking. Act now.

[techy2468]

logiclife...count me in.....but so far i have seen ton of talks small actions(like sending fax...) but no organised effort...

to tell you the fact i have given up on us getting together and doing something positive....i can hardly see few hundred active people.....and there are two groups now...and they do not see eye to eye....

[armie]

Some of the biggest benficiaries are immigration lawyers. Let them contribute one week's pay. Lot of people have decided to go back to their home contries or other places when the spouse are entitiled to work unilke H4 holders in US.

[gcstrat]

Guys and Gals

Try getting some FREE publicity - it can be achieved by

1) Writing articles on immigration and letting the journalist who tracks immigration take credit for it. That way, he/ she is happy but more importantly, it gets printed
2) Writing letters to Editors - this may be most useful but there are possiblities it may not get printed
3) Invite journalists to your meeting with Senators (i.e. embed) them.

Regards
GCStrat

[pdakwala]

Hello everyone,

There are chances that senate may take immigration Reform bill in January last week instead of February. It all depends on the Alito's confirmation. At this time indications are that some of the Democrats activity may delay Aito's confirmaiton by one week.

Senate Judiciary chairman Arlen Spector have said that he would like to finish the Alito's confirmation as early as possible so that they can start on other things. The biggest challange for Senate is how to deal with the Christmas gift that House have given to them by passing the H.R. 4437. There are few options that Senate has.

1. Put that bill on the shelf
2. Attach the Guest worker program with that bill and then deal with them again in conference.
3. Combine all the bills together that would address both House and President's request for Guest worker program.

No matter what happens we do not have time. Everyone please get back to work. We need to do following things ASAP.

1. Please ask your friends, family and employer to make contibution at WWW.IMMIGRATIONVOICE.ORG.

2. Start contacting our senators and congressman.

3. Ask our employer to write letter to our senators and congressman.

This is the last chance. If nothing happens this time then start looking to your hair color in the mirror. You will get your GC by the time all your hair is gone.

Cheers

[sriniatl]

Hi Guys,

Great job, I will definitely contribute $150. Just a thought though, can we fight for seperation of the applications based on legal or illegal. I want the illegal immigrants to wait more than us legal ones.
If thats not possible to atleast apply for EAD for everyone whose applications are waiting for more than a year.

Srini

[itsme1]

why don’t we have a small rally in the capitol. This is a hot topic, press will be real happy to cover this. We will go long way.... to get our voice heard.

[pdakwala]

Immigration Voice is working for everyone who are stuck in the retrogression and labor backlogs. They have hire QGA as the strategic councellor and is doing good job for us. In fact few people are in washington this week meeting differnet senators and sending our message across.

Please visit WWW.IMMIGRATIONVOICE.ORG and support them any way you can.

[nyc8300]

I agree with Itsme1's comments.
We need to rally on the road if we want to get heard.
There has not been one rally to date by us and put simply we do not figure on anybody's list.

Even if we have a 50 person rally, we get on CNN. We need to do this before the Senate/House gets into a border security mode only. We can get some parts of the SKIL Bill approved now. We can talk to TV about what we bring to the country.
I don't think Senators will oppose our stand. The problem with Senators is they cannot actively support educated guys taking up jobs 'americans do want'. Although we contribute to the economy, and keep the economy competitive, it is 'political suicide' for senators to really lead our cause.

One of the things I have seen many americans do is step up and move to East Asia to senior corporate positions and keep a good standard of living for themselves. I think in the end, people will find a way to remain competitive.

[engineer2006]

We had similar debate within my friend.
Money can be collected easily provided we can have someone propose plan of action with details.

Do you have ideas which law firms we should approach ?

[GCLOVER007]

So Guys,
What is the conclusion?
Including me there are about 8 guys affected by this stupid retro, we are waiting for some lead to show our unity.

Money is a not problem, every hour my fraud employer and the middleman taking $50, that I can happily give more to get relief.

Let me know guys.

GCLover007

[nyc8300]

Best to come up with a plan. There are more than 8 guys out here on this forum alone. We would need atleast 50. Also we need to highlight the 'staffing agencies' monye making and get it to Lou Dobbs to get some air time. We will get the retro issue highlighted through the channel.

So Guys,
What is the conclusion?
Including me there are about 8 guys affected by this stupid retro, we are waiting for some lead to show our unity.

Money is a not problem, every hour my fraud employer and the middleman taking $50, that I can happily give more to get relief.

Let me know guys.

GCLover007

[GCLOVER007]

Best to come up with a plan. There are more than 8 guys out here on this forum alone. We would need atleast 50. Also we need to highlight the 'staffing agencies' monye making and get it to Lou Dobbs to get some air time. We will get the retro issue highlighted through the channel.

Below is my idea that I expressed few days back on the other thread.

......

My best bet would be to gather every one in front of Capitol or Whitehouse and have a walk...Or Gather in time square and have a walk in Broadway to get media attention.

We can do this on weekends so as to solve two purposes. One is to get media attention and other one is to relax and enjoy NYC or Washington DC (and meet new friends (strictly no chain marketing!!!)).

-GCLover007