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    Benefit for Green Card Holder

    What are the benefits especially medical benefit for green card holder? My mom and dad just got their green cards, and they are > 65 yrs, but they have never worked in the U.S. They live CA. Thanks for the help

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    Quote Originally Posted by ****
    They won't qualify for medicaid/medicare, because for that, they have to have worked in the US.
    Furthermore, how did they get the GC? Did you sponsor them? If so, you signed an affidavit of support, and that means that you are responsible for their support. If they would request government aid, the government would request it back from you.
    You really are a nutcase!!! Indeed!!! That gentleman is asking for some help and you posted like TRUE *******. If you can't help, just stay quite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jj88
    What are the benefits especially medical benefit for green card holder? My mom and dad just got their green cards, and they are > 65 yrs, but they have never worked in the U.S. They live CA. Thanks for the help
    **** is right Green Card holders are not eligible for medicare or medicaid benefits. Clinton administration forbade states to provide benefits to new GC holders (even those over 65). Worst, most health insurance companies will deny health insurance coverage putting the sponsorer at grave financial risk in the event that the elderly parents need hospitalization. However, some states such as Minnesota provide health insurance through a government agency (at 115% the commerical premium) to any one who was denied health insurance or are over 65. After 5 years your parents can BUY medicare coverage (only one part (A?) which covers hospitalization at a cost of around $200 odd per month.

    Benfits at state level vary and there might be some benefits at the county, city or state level. You will need to farret that information out. Please post any information you might gain for the benefit of others. Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brb2
    **** is right Green Card holders are not eligible for medicare or medicaid benefits. Clinton administration forbade states to provide benefits to new GC holders (even those over 65). Worst, most health insurance companies will deny health insurance coverage putting the sponsorer at grave financial risk in the event that the elderly parents need hospitalization. However, some states such as Minnesota provide health insurance through a government agency (at 115% the commerical premium) to any one who was denied health insurance or are over 65. After 5 years your parents can BUY medicare coverage (only one part (A?) which covers hospitalization at a cost of around $200 odd per month.

    Benfits at state level vary and there might be some benefits at the county, city or state level. You will need to farret that information out. Please post any information you might gain for the benefit of others. Good luck.
    brb, are you fool?? **** is anti-immigrant !!! don't you see?? Historically **** posts anti immigrant

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    Quote Originally Posted by Picaso
    brb, are you fool?? **** is anti-immigrant !!! don't you see?? Historically **** posts anti immigrant
    That doesn't make what he says any less true, or your posts any less foolish and insulting.
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    quick question here

    So does a PR have access to health benefits if he has been working and paying taxes since he has been in this country or as others said a PR does not have any benefits period which does not make any sense; but again what does in this whole immigration process?!

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    thanks ****

    That makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Picaso
    You really are a nutcase!!! Indeed!!! That gentleman is asking for some help and you posted like TRUE *******. If you can't help, just stay quite.
    **** is giving a truthful answer to a query...what do you want him to do...just give a fake answer which may sound polite but far away from reality.....we all come here to get the honest answers which may be harsh ...we dont come here for fake but polite answers...

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    Thank you all for your helpful answers. The reality is harsh, I will just have find a way to deal with it.

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    You may add ur parents to ur tax return form as depandents

    , this is an indirect benefit to them as a senior.
    Correct me if I'm wrong.

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    Affadavit of Surpport is valid only for 3 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by Picaso
    You really are a nutcase!!! Indeed!!! That gentleman is asking for some help and you posted like TRUE *******. If you can't help, just stay quite.

    **** is correct. Sometimes, truth is bitter too. What to do? We have to accept it and face it Or else try a workaround.

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    intersting topic. Quick question Now plenty of spouses donot work and they get green card and then get citizenship later on what will happen to there medical coverage when they reach 65 years if
    1) they still carry the PR
    2) or they became citizen.
    just an advice ..check with your lawyer for more if he gives you better be happy else Thank me .


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    Sponsoring a parent

    Good topic. Although, very early, I hope to do the same. Sponsor my mom. I was wondering as a Canadian citizen, will she be eligible for ( when she comes to US from Canada) medicare/medicaid ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ****
    She may or may mot qualify for Canadian benefits, but she would need to check that with the Canadian equivalent of the SSA.
    There's a totalization agreement, but any credits in Canada would be considred "0" credits agianst SSA. Basically, they're useful if you are a few quarters short of the 40 required for eligibility but are of no value in terms of raising your benefit.

    Medicaid and Medicare are specifically excluded (mostly because Canada has government healthcare funded out of general revenues). Therefore, her Canadian citizenship is of no value whatsoever when establishing Medicare eligbility.

    That's what keeps my parents and in-laws a plane ride away, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghost-rider
    intersting topic. Quick question Now plenty of spouses donot work and they get green card and then get citizenship later on what will happen to there medical coverage when they reach 65 years if
    1) they still carry the PR
    2) or they became citizen.
    I think Affadavit of Support for spouse as derivative applicant
    together with primary applicant sponsored by employer is different
    from that for familit sponsorship. The former may be valid only for 3
    years

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghost-rider
    intersting topic. Quick question Now plenty of spouses donot work and they get green card and then get citizenship later on what will happen to there medical coverage when they reach 65 years if
    1) they still carry the PR
    2) or they became citizen.

    If working husband/wife get 40 credits, his/her wife/husband
    get soem benefits too even if they never work. That is my understanding

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    Is there a timeline restriction on how soon a sponsored PR can become a citizen?

    If there is none, then could one become a citizen in five years ang get benefits, and not have to wait for 10 years or 40 credits?

    If one becomes a citizen before accruing these 40 credits, then is the sponsoring individual still liable for all medical/other expenses?

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    ****,

    If someone becomes a citizen before accruing 40 SS credits, what benefits is the person entitled to? What benefits is that person NOT entitled to?

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    Medical care for parents

    ****, thanks for your answers, hoping that you might offer comments/insights into the statements below

    (a) For people 65 and older, who are not eligible for medicare, the state of Minnesota has a health care program called "MinnesotaCare".
    Now, if the GC parents stay away from the person filing the affidavit of support, in far away Minnesota, would they receive these benefits?

    (b) Folks, also once your parents become citizens (5 years), all worries vanish. I also believe that in the state of CA, they become eligible for SSI (Supplemental Security Income) since they do not derive income of their own and medi-cal (California's version of medicare).

    (c) So, basically, the option IF YOU HAVE to get your parents here
    --If either one of them is over 65, pack them off to Minnesota and get them enrolled in MinnesotaCare (and the other person in private health insurance)
    --If they're under 65, buy private insurance for them.
    --Wait for 5 years, have them become citizens

    (d) Or, explore the option of getting them both a Candian PR (through you) and a U.S. GC. Rent on both sides of the border...and do some creative thinking....

    Basically, the truth is medical care is prohibitively expensive for seniors without insurance....so unless you're stupid you will do your homework well before getting your parents here.

    I wish they made medicare universally accesible to all (like in Canada)
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    Some links:
    http://www.dhs.state.mn.us/main/grou...id_006255.hcsp
    http://www.co.stearns.mn.us/departme...mnprograms.htm
    As permanent resident one can buy health insurance through govt. sponsored agency but most free benefits are now restricted to US citizens or "qualified non-citizens" - essentially PRs after 5 years residency in the US.




    Quote Originally Posted by dabuk
    ****, thanks for your answers, hoping that you might offer comments/insights into the statements below

    (a) For people 65 and older, who are not eligible for medicare, the state of Minnesota has a health care program called "MinnesotaCare".
    Now, if the GC parents stay away from the person filing the affidavit of support, in far away Minnesota, would they receive these benefits?

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    I hate to say but after watching **** write enthusiastically over the years and add up his postings (congrats in advance for getting close to 10,000 posts!), with all due respect, I should say that **** tends to get too excited and write whatever he thinks is right. He seems to think that he is the final authority and others (in his puny brain) a bunch of “trolls”.

    I just happen to see this thread. It’s been some time since I visited this forum.

    GC Holders do get Medicaid Benefits! Why I do say so? Because my parents have been getting for the past 4 years! They are still GC Holders. They are over 65 years and have no income. So friends, either take my answer or someone’s who runs his mouth!

    I did some research on this topic a while back. NY extends Medicaid benefits to GC Holders over 65 yrs old w/o income. PA, VA & TX offer only to US Citizens > 65 years and no income. NJ offers Medicaid benefits to GC holders, if one is a GC holder for 5 years i.e. USC eligible. Many states have restricted Medicaid to USC's only. The only general exception is if one is > 65 years, has no income and has been a GC holder on/before 1996.

    I know many GC holders who get Medicaid.

    Hope this clarifies.

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    One more point for the record:

    To qualify for Medicaid, one does NOT need to have worked in the US at all! That is Medicare.

    Medicaid is for low-income / no-income families regardless of any US work history.

    Another point is that the Sponsor is only liable for 3 years!

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    I am not interested in any "flame war". These are my thoughts on things I know first-hand. I'll leave **** here to answer any other questions

    And oh, one more thing. GC Holders with no income still qualify for Medicaid, if an unforeseen hospitalization occurs. Check with the local county social service dept as severity of benefits differ from place to place.

    Take care, folks for now.

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    my parents immigrated to florida after my dads brother sponsored him. they are now on a green card since dec 05
    they now live in florida with my sister by have no income and are seniors.

    looking for any help/info on what kind of benefits they can get and how.
    thanks
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    what benefits are available to seniors (>65) new GC holders in California

    My parents got their green cards six months ago (in california). They are 65 and 60 years old. No work history in the US.

    Can someone please tell me what medical, social security etc benefits are available to them if any.

    In particular, does someone know about california rules on this?

    many thanks,

    -Dinesh

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    People (PR) who can't get Medicare because they have never contibuted to it, can still get Medicaid (Medical in California) if they are poor. They can even get SSI (this is not an insurance). All counties have separate insurance programs for indigents who don't qualify for Medicaid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Upstate_NY View Post
    I hate to say but after watching **** write enthusiastically over the years and add up his postings (congrats in advance for getting close to 10,000 posts!), with all due respect, I should say that **** tends to get too excited and write whatever he thinks is right. He seems to think that he is the final authority and others (in his puny brain) a bunch of “trolls”.

    I just happen to see this thread. It’s been some time since I visited this forum.

    GC Holders do get Medicaid Benefits! Why I do say so? Because my parents have been getting for the past 4 years! They are still GC Holders. They are over 65 years and have no income. So friends, either take my answer or someone’s who runs his mouth!

    I did some research on this topic a while back. NY extends Medicaid benefits to GC Holders over 65 yrs old w/o income. PA, VA & TX offer only to US Citizens > 65 years and no income. NJ offers Medicaid benefits to GC holders, if one is a GC holder for 5 years i.e. USC eligible. Many states have restricted Medicaid to USC's only. The only general exception is if one is > 65 years, has no income and has been a GC holder on/before 1996.

    I know many GC holders who get Medicaid.

    Hope this clarifies.
    Hi there your posting has been very helpful and I was wondering if you know abything or can point me in the right direction to find out about, medical/medicaid in Michigan we live in Uk and are thinking of moving but healthcare is our major concern thank you

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    This subject is too old but i m serching some informatıon about madicaid.

    My wife is pregnant and we will be in ny at october we wait a bayby in Feb 09 that time i ll be worked only about 2 or 3 months what can i do for medicaid in ny state.
    We are green card holdr but we have no work history in usa.
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