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How soon can I leave the employer after I get my GC

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Q. How soon can I leave my petitioning employer once I get my green card approval?

A. There is no brief answer to this question. Let me explain. The basic premise (or theory) behind permanent residence through offer of employment is that an employee is accepting a job on a "permanent" bases. What does "permanent" mean? Does it mean for ever. Obviously not. That would be unreasonable. But "permanent" also does not mean that you pack your bags the moment you receive your green card. So what is the answer? No one really knows. Each case has to be determined upon its own merits. Normally, I would say working for one year or more with the same employer after getting your GC is PROBABLY enough indication of permanency. Less than 4-5 months is perhaps evidence to the contrary

But REMEMBER, this is just my own guess. Technically speaking, the moment you decide that you will leave after a certain period of time, "permanent" intent is gone. Catch-22 eh? Well that is the way it is.

There may be considerable relaxation in this interpretation because in the year 2001 Congress enacted a law that permits employees to leave an employer even while their I-485 is pending. We do not have the regulations or any detailed guidance on these issues.


FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
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Q. I did not willingly left the GC sponsor employer but actually after three months I got my GC, i got laid off from the project and due to the bad economy , my employer was not able to get me other project so he gave me letter saying that he wont be able to pay me salary since he doesnt have any project for me.And, after getting that letter I resigned from GC sponsor employer.
This is the whole scenario, now considering it, Am I still at risk?

A. There are no clear rules as we have stated above. But, In my opinion, there is no risk in this scenario. You acted in good faith to continue the job, but your employer could not continue to employ you.

Q. I am employed at the XYZ University (XYZU). I applied for 485 myself (without attorney). My 485 was approved last month and I got my passport stamped in July. My contract with XYZU is coming to an end. My job is renewed every year based on the availability of funding. I have been with XYZU for the last 5 years. There is a possibility that they (XYZU) may not extend the contract because the research grant I got is coming to an end in september.
Will my termination from the job at XYZU affect my Green Card in the future, and is it better to be terminated from service (based on unavailability of funding) by the WVU or is it better to offer my resignation?

A. I think it is better to be terminated. There are no clear rules as we have stated above. But, In my opinion, there is no risk in this scenario. You acted in good faith to continue the job, but your employer could not continue to employ you.

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    Friend Curious George, here are your answers:

    Qo1. At the time of filing my labor (July 2003) and even after having my green card for almost 5 months, there was never an intent to leave my employer. It just so happened that this offer came on the horizon. Would leaving the company now (5 months after getting the green card) have any negative impact?
    Ans. In my opinion, no impact. Just to be safe for naturalization, keep some evidence of your intent to stay.

    Qo2. If AC21 allows people to change jobs before getting the green card, why would there be a restriction in changing jobs after getting the green card? It seems a little illogical that as long as your application is not approved, it is okay to leave, but not so after getting the approval.
    Ans. I agree. AC21 should considerably dilute this requirement of "permanence." Unfortunately, the government is usually 10-15 years behind reality. Look at the Wall Street.

    Qo3. My wife's green card (dependent) is still pending because of the backlog. Would my job change affect her process?
    Ans. I do not believe there should be any affect.
    Thanks Jefkorn. Except for my very poor English in the conference, the answer is correct.
    Oh, I thought the questions were already answered by above info. Let me comment specifically:
    I would appreciate if you could answer some questions related to all time favorite "How soon to leave employer after receiving employment based GC?".

    1. A person received GC and had worked for the sponsoring employer for close to 4 years, before receiving the GC. Little over three months after receiving the GC, the employee asks for raise and tries to negotiate his/her contract, the employer doesn't agree. Can employee leave his/her employer without jeopardizing his/her future citizenship application?

    2. If the person described in #1 above leaves the employer, should he/she just resign and should he/she keep some kind of proof of failed communication with employer of salary negotiations which led to employee's resignation? Will this proof be any useful in future to show why the employee left the sponsoring employer?
    I believe that the person in the above case is fairly safe to leave. It is a good idea to keep some record of the failed communications/negotiations.
    How to record the reason for leaving the employer?
    You are the best. I would think that written/ email would be better record. What if the communication was oral on the phone?

    I assume that just making a note of the time and day of the call and summary of the conversation would suffice.

    Again thanks a lot for your responses.
    You assume correctly. Under the Federal Rules of Evidence, detailed contemporaneous notes are good evidence.
    Waheed, all the above discussion and AC21 topics on my blog deal with the issues you are presenting.
    Hi,

    I am in a seemingly difficult situation. My prospective employer started the process of green card sponsoring for me about an year prior to my effective employment date. Me and my wife were on H1B visa during that time, working for another employer. My green card got approved about 2.5 months prior to my start date of employment along with my wife (I applied for her as my wife). When I interviewed for this position, both my wife and me were hoping to receive employment here as she also interviewed with the same employer. The employer verbally promised us 2 jobs as she was called for interview with me when she was 39 weeks pregnant. They made her interview with 10 different people, promising job. We both are physicians and have a 15 month old baby. My job is of such nature that it is highly demanding because of so few people in my subspeciality. I signed the contract about a year prior to the employment date. When I started inquiring for my wife's job about 6 months prior to my employment, the new employer started stating they it has no jobs available for my wife. I kept on inquiring later. About a month prior to my employment start date, the employer offered an unsuitable position for my wife which she denied.

    We both moved to the new place and I started the employment. My wife and my 13 month old son came with me to a new place. My wife left her previous job so that both of us can be together. Due to the unavailability of a job for her here, my wife is going to another place which is 5 hrs away (driving) from my current employer's city along with our baby to start her employment.

    Now, I am in a big trouble because not only I have to live separate with my wife but also with my 15 month old baby. At this age, as everyone knows, a toddler baby needs a father. It will affect his growing brain if I am not with me. My question is, can I leave this employer now or how long should I wait before I voluntarily terminate this job? We are planning to find 2 jobs together in a suitable place. If I leave now, will that be a deviation from the intention to be permanently employed here at this place?

    Thank you for your response.
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